File spoon-archives/bourdieu.archive/bourdieu_1999/bourdieu.9912, message 30


From: "kent strock" <sigmund5-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: habitus
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 10:03:47 PST


thanks Karl and sorry for any misunderstandings


>From: Karl Maton <karl.maton-AT-dtn.ntl.com>
>Reply-To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re: habitus
>Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 17:26:05 +0100
>
>Kent, watch out there's another Kent on the listserv.  The email below
>was addressing his email, not yours.
>
>kent strock wrote:
> >
> > S. Pines-Martin,
> > I don't remember writing what you attribute to me. A basic question 
>would be
> > how do you see concepts becoming reified?
> > thanks,
> > kent
> > >Kent, aren't you merely reifying the abstract
> > >categories that are used in theoretical discussions? (especially where 
>you
> > >say "is thereby *something* else (than habitus)")
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:       Kloss [SMTP:kloss-AT-erie.net]
> > > > Sent:       Tuesday, 07. December 1999 14:40
> > > > To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> > > > Subject:    Re: habitus
> > > >
> > > > The way I understand Bourdieu leads me to suggest that you
> > > > may be setting up a classical, dichotomous approach which Bourdieu 
>wants
> > > > to
> > > > avoid ( there is no "absolute," transcendental, "rationality" that 
>the
> > > > subject has access to or is, as, let's say- opposed to habitus). 
>There
> > >is
> > > > always the temptation of reification of such an historical 
>construction
> > >of
> > > > rationality and I feel Bourdieu would suggest that we might want to
> > > > reflect
> > > > upon our philosophical/lexical habitus a la the later Wittgenstein.
> > > >
> > > > Joe Kloss,
> > > > Erie, Pa.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Kent Lofgren <Kent.Lofgren-AT-pedag.umu.se>
> > > > To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> > > > <bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> > > > Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:49 AM
> > > > Subject: habitus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Hi, I have a question about habitus. The question is based on some
> > > > >interesting discussion I had w. my friend and colleague Mattias
> > >Johnsson.
> > > > >the question builds on some premisses. They are: Bourdieu argues 
>that
> > > > >habitus deals with sort of the everyday situations and is sort of 
>an
> > > > >automatic reaction to things that happen around the individual. 
>O.k.?
> > > > (This
> > > > >is in a very simple and straight forward language). Also (second
> > > > premiss):
> > > > >the rational calculating/thinking (by an individual) is thereby
> > >something
> > > > >else (than habitus).
> > > > >Our question then, is: Where are B discussing the 
>relation/distinction
> > > > >between social habitus and rational and consious calculating? Any
> > >recent
> > > > >sources/articles? We have read material from mid 1980's.
> > > > >Also, if you have any comments regarding this relation/distinction,
> > > > please
> > > > >share them with us.
> > > > >
> > > > >O.k.? Hope you all understood our query. Feel free to respond 
>directly
> > >to
> > > > >me, if you want to.
> > > > >
> > > > >Sincerely
> > > > >
> > > > >Kent Lofgren
> > > > >Graduate student/teacher
> > > > >
> > > > >Dept. of Education
> > > > >Umea University
> > > > >S-901 87 Umea
> > > > >SWEDEN
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
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>--
>With best wishes,
>
>Karl
>
>Karl Maton
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