Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:40:57 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis R Redmond <dredmond-AT-OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> Subject: Re: comprendre On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Simon Beesley wrote: > up its own dictatorship. I mean you and other grad workers are indeed > proletarianized but not in the effective sense demanded by a Marxist or > Frankfurt Marxist theory of history. You mean, just because we don't work in steel mills, we're somehow not "real" proletarians? I don't own the silicon means of production, I don't own any stock, I don't own a business. According to Adorno and Marx, I'm objectively a member of the working-class, even if I'm not consciously aware of this. > Surely the lesson of the failure of Marxism (as a political programme) is How has Marxism failed? Seems to me the working-class has won some pretty significant victories against capital over the past three hundred years: higher wages, benefits, the welfare state, tougher laws on polluters, a modicum of public education, suffrage for all, etc. Adorno once said that the chief characteristic of dialectics is that it doesn't stop, it doesn't end somewhere: its restlessness is how it keeps faith with the possibility of the new. In many ways, the best of Marxism is yet to be. -- Dennis ********************************************************************** Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
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