From: "Pam Stello" <stello-AT-socrates.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: question
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 15:48:15 -0700


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Michael

Another place where Bourdieu discusses the "disconnect between class condition and political consciousness" is in the last chapter of Language and Symbolic Power, "Social Space and the Genesis of Classes." I'm still thinking about how he defines interest in this chapter. I think the question you raise is an important one.

--Pam
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  From: Michael Franklin
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  Subject: question


  Hey list,

  I'm one of those so-called newbies, so treat me tenderly.

  I just finished Distinction and had a question.  In the chapter on culture
  and politics, Bourdieu discusses a disconnect between class condition and
  political consciousness (e.g., a working-class guy who is politically
  conservative and an evangelical Christian).  Mediating this "disconnect" is
  class interest, but Bourdieu never identifies the principles of assignment
  that would link a specific class with a specific interest.  The conventional
  way of defining "interest" is by identifying a social agent's (or class of
  agents') subjective intentions/beliefs.  Yet, Bourdieu seems to define 
  "interest" objectively, outside the social agent's consciousness, by
  suggesting that there is a true politics associated with the
  social/economic condition of the social agent that trumps the false
  politics associated with myth, religion, nationalism, etc.

  If anyone could point me in the direction of relevant articles/books, I'd
  appreciate it, especially something that takes into account mass media and
  PR.

  Thanks much,
  Michael Franklin
  University of MN


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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Franklin

To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu

Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 9:36 AM

Subject: question

Hey list,

I'm one of those so-called newbies, so treat me tenderly.

I just finished Distinction and had a question.  In the chapter on culture
and politics, Bourdieu discusses a disconnect between class condition and
political consciousness (e.g., a working-class guy who is politically
conservative and an evangelical Christian).  Mediating this "disconnect" is
class interest, but Bourdieu never identifies the principles of assignment
that would link a specific class with a specific interest.  The conventional
way of defining "interest" is by identifying a social agent's (or class of
agents') subjective intentions/beliefs.  Yet, Bourdieu seems to define
"interest" objectively, outside the social agent's consciousness, by
suggesting that there is a true politics associated with the
social/economic condition of the social agent that trumps the false
politics associated with myth, religion, nationalism, etc.

If anyone could point me in the direction of relevant articles/books, I'd
appreciate it, especially something that takes into account mass media and
PR.

Thanks much,
Michael Franklin
University of MN


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