From: "john.kaman" <john.kaman-AT-wanadoo.fr> Subject: RE: [BOU:] Islam Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:55:23 +0100 If you think that young Islamic women want to wear the veil as a sign of identity you are sadly mistaken. I teach in the University of Paris system and I can tell you that in my long experience these young women take their veils off once they see that they are safe from their fundamentalist male oppressors. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-bourdieu-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU [mailto:owner-bourdieu-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU]On Behalf Of suzume-AT-mx82.tiki.ne.jp Sent: dimanche 4 janvier 2004 10:48 To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU Subject: Re: [BOU:] Islam On 4 janv. 04, at 18:11, john.kaman wrote: > meant when I made the distinction between the sunnite majority here in > France which supports the government's position on the veil as opposed > to > the more extreme manifestations of Islam which of course do not. And is it possible to see this veil thing as totally unrelated to Islam as a religion ? Where we would find "progressive" groups and "extreme/obscurantists" ones ? What about adolescents who try to assert their identity as all adolescents do ? Some wear mini skirts, some wear old worn out jeans some wear a head scarf etc ... Of course the symbol chosen to assert one's identity reflects one culture/upbringing, but considering everything that has been written on the subject I see much more Republican fundamentalism than Muslim fundamentalism in what is going in France now. We (?) have to worry more about the French State that only takes cosmetic measures to satisfy a conservative electorate without doing anything about the real causes of unemployment etc than of a few young ladies who probably will get a reality check in a few years if not taken to the front of the stage for wearing a head scarf and not being willing to show their body to boys during sport classes. JC Helary ********************************************************************** Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ********************************************************************** Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
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