File spoon-archives/bourdieu.archive/bourdieu_2004/bourdieu.0401, message 3

Subject: RE: [BOU:] l'affaire du foulard
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 17:35:03 +0100

I strongly disagree.  There can be no comparison between the "Reds" of the
last century which were a progressive force and the Muslims, who represent
who represent a hidebound religion that oppresses everyone that is not part
of it and seems to be stuck forever in the 13th century.  France has been a
state that recognizes no religion since the revolution; muslims today have
been trying to make inroads into the progressive institutions of the French
state for years now.  I note that such "muslims" are in the minority of
Islam, as the leader of the sunnite sect Friday approved France's position
for muslims in France, arguing that the veil was mandatory in a muslim
country but elsewhere one does as in Rome.  How anyone can associate those
who oppose the spread of integristist muslim religions as "repressive" is
beyond me.

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Subject: Re: [BOU:] l'affaire du foulard

For what it's worth, I'm inclined to see this in Nietzschean terms, as a
small skirmish in a much larger 21st century "war of gods." No, not the
20th century war between the gods capitalism and communism, but now,
capitalism and Islam. In other words, the "reds" of the last century
have been replaced by the "veils" (if you will) of today; and the
capitalists feel every bit as threatened. And the capitalists are doing
the only thing they know how to do: repress.

Emrah Goker wrote:

> Is anyone following the "controversy" created around Islamic veiling
> in France? I was wondering whether any scholar from the "Acts of
> Research" circle wrote on this. I know that part of the French
> socialist left is defending young Muslim women on this, and some other
> socialists are with hard-core laicists. The common discourse among the
> academic opposition appears to be multiculturalism and politics of
> recognition, but I was curious whether students of Bourdieu took a
> different stance.
> happy new year to all,
> Emrah Goker
> Department of Sociology
> Columbia University
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