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Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 16:10:27 -0400
Subject: Re: [BOU:] The Meaning of the Holocaust


The Internet being what it is, we have to learn to live with fools who set up 
vanity presses with pretentious titles (Library of Social Science--forsooth) 
and who post utterly unoriginal and very old-hat ruminations repackaged as 
"revolutionary explanations".

I draw the line however when such drivel serves to trivialize the Shoah.  As I 
wrote before, I don't like the Holocaust industry, but I abhor the 
anti-Holocaust industry. The latter includes not only hard-core "deniers"-- 
who in fact know perfectly well that the catastrophe occurred but who choose 
to taunt and unsult survivors and their kin -- but the soft-core contingent as 
well: genteel antisemites, googoos and plain nitwits.  Richard Koenigsberg, 
hereafter Dr. LOSS, is in one of the last two categories, degree 
notwithstanding.  When no distinction is made between the planned annihilation 
of millions of people (involving tremendous outlays of scarce resources in the 
midst of war in order to send every last Jewish-born nun and every last Jew on 
the smallest of Greek islands to Auschwitz) and the cynical indifference to 
the _unintended_ deaths of other millions, we are face-to-face with the 
cynicism of trivialization.  And when we're told that the Shoah occurred "in 
order enact the repressed experience of war, to depict the horrific fate of a
body that has been given to, taken over by the collective" we're face-to-face 
with someone who seems to have no idea whatever of the distinction between 
confirmable propositions and tearoom bebbitzing.

None of this low-level pap belongs on a list devoted to the work of a giant 
such as Bourdieu.

Norman Miller

Library of Social Science wrote:
> 	Yes, the Holocaust actually occurred. 
> 
> 	Rather than discuss someone's fantasies about the Holocaust, why not
> actually read my paper on SACRIFICIAL MEANING OF THE HOLOCAUST that
> contains, I believe, a revolutionary explanation of WHY THE HOLOCAUST
> OCCURRED, and moves toward tackling the question of the meaning of
> COLLECTIVE VIOLENCE UNDERTAKEN IN THE NAME OF NATION-STATES.
> 
> 	The paper may be found at the website below.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Richard Koenigsberg
> 
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> Website for THE KOENIGSBERG LECTURES ON THE PSYCHOLOGY OF CULTURE AND
> HISTORY http://www.conflictaslesson.com/why_main.html
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-bourdieu-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
> [mailto:owner-bourdieu-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU] On Behalf Of Par Engholm
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 2:10 PM
> To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
> Subject: Re: [BOU:] The Meaning of the Holocaust
> 
> 
> Please. Not that on top of all...
> Easy PoMo readings of a much more sophisticated idea...
> 
> At 21:01 2004-08-06, you wrote:
> 
>>Maybe I'm wrong, I'm just wondering if here's some symbolic violence
> 
> involved?
> 
>>erik
> 
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