Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:36:06 -0700 From: steven w <primeweevil-AT-shaw.ca> Subject: Re: [BOU:] War, Death and History This person sends this stuff to almost every listserve remotely related to his subject matter. I suspect Orion Anderson and Richard Koenigsberg are the same selfpromoting entity. spam spam spam wonderful spam! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Andersen" <cta1-AT-ualberta.ca> To: <bourdieu-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: RE: [BOU:] War, Death and History > Why do we keep getting these same links? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-bourdieu-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU > [mailto:owner-bourdieu-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU] On Behalf Of Orion > Anderson > Sent: October 19, 2004 9:42 AM > To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU > Subject: [BOU:] War, Death and History > > War, Death and History > > > In the First World War, human beings were proud of the endless rows of > white > crosses that memorialized the dead soldiers even as the war was being > fought. They didn't realize that the war was fought in order to create > the > crosses. Nations exist because memorials testify to the fact that people > have died in their name. > > Soldiers in World War did what they were asked to do: They got out of > trenches and ran into artillery shells and machine-gun fire. However, > the > cause of the killing and dying was obscure; the source was murky. Wars > happen. When wars happen, soldiers die. > > Today, we are not unaware of the relationship between human agency, war > and > the death of the soldier. We know that wars are the result of choices > that > people make. Since we know that we have chosen war--that we are the > cause of > the soldier's death--we're not so proud of memorials. We no longer > flaunt > them. In fact, we sometimes hide them. We don't want to be excessively > conscious of the results of our choices. > > _____ > > Richard Koenigsberg's writings have revolutionized our understanding of > the > sources of societal violence. To read his papers (listed below) on war, > genocide and civilizational self-destruction, > > PLEASE > <http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=bis8g6n6.0.0.85y8w8n6.0&p=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.ear > thli > nk.net%2F%7Elibraryofsocialscience%2F> CLICK HERE or visit: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~libraryofsocialscience/ > <http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=bis8g6n6.0.0.85y8w8n6.0&p=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.ear > thli > nk.net%2F%7Elibraryofsocialscience> > > > * AS THE SOLDIER DIES, SO DOES THE NATION COME ALIVE: The > Sacrificial > Meaning of Warfare > > * DYING FOR ONE'S COUNTRY: The Logic of War and Genocide > > * THE LOGIC OF THE HOLOCAUST: Why the Nazi's Killed the Jews > > * THE SACRIFICIAL MEANING OF THE HOLOCAUST > > * AZTEC WARFARE, WESTERN WARFARE: The Soldier as Sacrificial > Victim > > > > _____ > > Yet we do want to know that the soldier has died--for our cause. In war, > the > soldier dies for all of us. National glory derives from the willingness > of > the soldier to give his life. If soldiers did not accede to give their > lives, there could be no national glory. Without national glory, there > would > be no history. > > The death of the soldier sustains the fantasy. Soldiers die so that we > can > read about leaders and wars in history books. The greater the number of > deaths, the more significant the historical event. Wars are undertaken > in > order to remind us of our sacred ideals. Death in war testifies to the > reality of the ideal. Wars occur in order to be remembered--so that > leaders > and nations can make history. > > People feel better when there is terrorism and war. War reassures us > that > life is meaningful. Triviality and frivolity are replaced by > significance > and solemnity. In order for history to continue, wars are created. As > long > as wars occur, there can be no "end of history." Narratives become grand > again: The world has returned to normalcy. > > Once again, there seems to be a center. When there is a center, it is > difficult to be "multi." The center is where death occurs and is located > in > the minds of those who cause death. The center is the sacred ideal that > is > the cause and justification for killing. If they can die for their > ideals, > we can die for ours. Without sacred ideals, there is only Michael > Jackson. > > War is full of sound and fury, a tale told by an idiot. Unless you are > in > the path of a bomb or bullet--then it's really real. Death and body > mutilation are the basis of war and source of history. Bombs create > "earth > shattering" events. We create history in order to forget that our frail > bodies are in the process of disintegrating. > > > _____ > > E-mail: libraryofsocialscience-AT-earthlink.net > Phone: 718-393-1081 > Web: http://home.earthlink.net/~libraryofsocialscience/ > <http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=bis8g6n6.0.0.85y8w8n6.0&p=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.ear > thli > nk.net%2F%7Elibraryofsocialscience%2F> > > > --- StripMime Warning -- MIME attachments removed --- > This message may have contained attachments which were removed. > > Sorry, we do not allow attachments on this list. > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > ********************************************************************** > Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > > ********************************************************************** > Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > ********************************************************************** Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
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