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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:56:41 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: [BOU:] Home of Bourdieu


Hey Lexie and everyone,

I am in oz and have missed some posts so don't know
what's happened, but I run a couple of yahoo listservs
and they're easy to sort out.  I'll set one up if you
like.  I run one on the work of Bernstein on yahoo.  

Lexie - saw email before I left.  Will reply asap.

Karl



 --- el don <eldon-AT-panix.com> wrote: 
> At 15:19 -0600 29/11/04, Pia Kate wrote:
> >It would be a shame to see this list die. Although
> my knowledge is
> >too limited to participate much I have found it
> both fun and very
> >useful over the years. Since I don't know what
> alternatives are
> >available I can only volunteer myself with some
> time and effort to
> >keep the list going.
> >
> >I would be happy to find out if my school would
> consider hosting the
> >list and learn how to run it, or I would be happy
> to help someone
> >better equipped to take on the management. If there
> is no other
> >solution available at the moment, might it be
> helpful to move,
> >temporarily, to a yahoo group?
> 
> yahoo groups seem to be run quite well, i mean, they
> can be run
> easily by anyone. i set up a list very easily -
> although it doesn't
> have much traffic. another list i co-moderate on
> yahoo has functioned
> very ably for the last few years. we moderate new
> members' posts, and
> vet new members to try to avoid getting spammed.
> seems to work OK.
> 
> 
> as for the topic of propaganda and ayn rand, this is
> a rich area for
> discussion. with or without habitus. a while back i
> wanted to air
> some of my ideas on the confluence of bordieu's
> notion of habitus and
> bateson's conception of deutero-learning, or
> learning how to learn,
> which involves developing subconscious recognition
> of 'contexts' as
> similar to ones which have been experienced before -
> thus making
> action within that context much easier, as some
> activites can be
> relegated to subconscious behaviour. also, it means
> that one
> recognises certain contexts as similar and thus
> finds a repeated
> 'new' sequence of events easier to 'learn'.
> 
> but my convoluted thinking on this matter has been
> 'relegated' to the
> subconscious for now, as i try to unlearn my
> habitual ways of
> aproaching my own research work, which entails
> distractions in the
> form of philosophy.
> 
> yes, freedom of choice really only applies to the
> fabulously wealthy.
> all others pay cash and take their chances. plus,
> the one failing of
> capitalist ideals is down to a double bind inherent
> in the dependency
> of capitalism on competition. if there is freedom to
> choose, then one
> thing gets passed over in favour of another. if
> there is competition
> to be 'chosen' (or to 'win') then there cannot be
> any winner without
> entailing a loser. to my mind, capitalism and
> competition in general
> is utterly dependent on producing 'losers'.
> 
> best,
> 
> -- 
> -----------
> alexanne don
> phd research student
> applied linguistics
> department of english
> university of birmingham,
> birmingham. B15 2TT
> U.K.
> (44)-0121-459-5318
> <eldon-AT-panix.com>
> <eldon-AT-gol.com>
> <acd089-AT-bham.ac.uk>
>
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