Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:56:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Karl Maton <matonianuk-AT-yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [BOU:] Home of Bourdieu Hey Lexie and everyone, I am in oz and have missed some posts so don't know what's happened, but I run a couple of yahoo listservs and they're easy to sort out. I'll set one up if you like. I run one on the work of Bernstein on yahoo. Lexie - saw email before I left. Will reply asap. Karl --- el don <eldon-AT-panix.com> wrote: > At 15:19 -0600 29/11/04, Pia Kate wrote: > >It would be a shame to see this list die. Although > my knowledge is > >too limited to participate much I have found it > both fun and very > >useful over the years. Since I don't know what > alternatives are > >available I can only volunteer myself with some > time and effort to > >keep the list going. > > > >I would be happy to find out if my school would > consider hosting the > >list and learn how to run it, or I would be happy > to help someone > >better equipped to take on the management. If there > is no other > >solution available at the moment, might it be > helpful to move, > >temporarily, to a yahoo group? > > yahoo groups seem to be run quite well, i mean, they > can be run > easily by anyone. i set up a list very easily - > although it doesn't > have much traffic. another list i co-moderate on > yahoo has functioned > very ably for the last few years. we moderate new > members' posts, and > vet new members to try to avoid getting spammed. > seems to work OK. > > > as for the topic of propaganda and ayn rand, this is > a rich area for > discussion. with or without habitus. a while back i > wanted to air > some of my ideas on the confluence of bordieu's > notion of habitus and > bateson's conception of deutero-learning, or > learning how to learn, > which involves developing subconscious recognition > of 'contexts' as > similar to ones which have been experienced before - > thus making > action within that context much easier, as some > activites can be > relegated to subconscious behaviour. also, it means > that one > recognises certain contexts as similar and thus > finds a repeated > 'new' sequence of events easier to 'learn'. > > but my convoluted thinking on this matter has been > 'relegated' to the > subconscious for now, as i try to unlearn my > habitual ways of > aproaching my own research work, which entails > distractions in the > form of philosophy. > > yes, freedom of choice really only applies to the > fabulously wealthy. > all others pay cash and take their chances. plus, > the one failing of > capitalist ideals is down to a double bind inherent > in the dependency > of capitalism on competition. if there is freedom to > choose, then one > thing gets passed over in favour of another. if > there is competition > to be 'chosen' (or to 'win') then there cannot be > any winner without > entailing a loser. to my mind, capitalism and > competition in general > is utterly dependent on producing 'losers'. > > best, > > -- > ----------- > alexanne don > phd research student > applied linguistics > department of english > university of birmingham, > birmingham. B15 2TT > U.K. > (44)-0121-459-5318 > <eldon-AT-panix.com> > <eldon-AT-gol.com> > <acd089-AT-bham.ac.uk> > ********************************************************************** > Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Requests: > bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > > ___________________________________________________________ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ********************************************************************** Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
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