Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 23:09:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Mani Salem-Haghighi <msalemha-AT-uoguelph.ca> Subject: Re: Deleuze and Postmodernity The recent posts on this topic have been great, primarily because the issue seems more muddled than ever, which is often quite a wonderful thing... I have two brief things to say: First, Jon's quote from the Huyssen book notwithstanding, I still find Huyssen's understanding of the postmodern/post-structuralist distinction to be ambivalent. He obviously does make a distinction, but he also makes a lot out of the overlaps between them, their "middle", which I find just as interesting. Frankly, I can't see how Huyssen can say that "even in America, poststructuralism offers a theory of modernism, not a theory of postmodernism," when he's already said that "...the American appropriation of structuralist and especially poststructuralist theory from France reflects the extent to which postmodernism itself has been academicized since it won its battle against modernism..." (pg.170) "...there are definite links between the ethos of postmodernism and the American appropriation of poststructuralism..." (pg.235n.24) By the way, what does this appropriation mean, Jon, In terms of your idea of institutional placement? Doesn't it make the theorized postmodernism something which reaches beyond the Anglo-American context? And more generally, why the obsession to keep PoMo American? (But as far as I'm concerned, we don't really have to get into any of this because): What seems to have become clear is that the distinctions between poststructuralism and postmodernism, or the one between postmodernism and and modernism, are more or less irrelevant to D+G. Asking these questions doesn't seem to take D+G anywhere, do anything to them. Either way, they do what they've been doing, (which is not necessarily the same as saying that they are neither one nor the other, and it doesn't imply that the distinctions are inherently useless: we don't want to call someone like Baudrilard a modern, or do we?) I'm beginning to wonder if this is an example of what Deleuze calls a False Problem. What do you think? love mani ------------------
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