Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 10:38:59 +0100 From: destanley-AT-teaser.fr (douglas edric stanley) Subject: Re: The desert is growing(no?) Paul, I've gone to the library to read Ruyer once now but since I haven't found it at any of my libraries I cannot check it out. Still looking, but while I was there I read the chapter on absolute survol, and took a lot of notes. I'll get back to you on this, because I just don't have all that much time right now, but it's quite in line with what I too am doing research on. Although there is a lot to discuss, because this idea of a consciousness of seeing, a survol that does not take place simply in the observational field of the eye-as-optique, seems to limit certain things that I have myself been pulling from Deleuze and Guattari to speak, justemment, on the eye. My research is not on "vision" per se, but rather on optics as seen from the eye - and not even a seeing-eye, mais des yeux-vitesses, des yeux-intensités, des yeux-lignes, des yeux-rythmes, etc. So, we'll have to discuss this question of the eye and the survol that does not "observe" the eye's information but rather scans it, almost submerged in it without distance. But again this is something slightly different than Deleuze's haptic smooth-space. Or as well what he has to say in 1000 Plateaus about a Rieman space: "Riemann spaces are devoid of any kind of homogeneity. Each is characterized by the form of the expression that defines the square of the distance between two infinitely proximate points...It follows that two neighboring observers in a Riemann space can locate the points in their immediate vicinity but cannot locate their spaces in relation to each other without a new convention. Each vicinity is therefore like a shred of Euclidian space but the linkage between one vicinity and the next is not defined and can be effected in an infinite number of ways. Riemann space at its most general thus presents itself as an amorphous collection of pieces that are juxtaposed but not attached to each other."(p.485). Juxtaposed, but not attached. This is somewhat different from the absolute survol which I had the impression (in my quick reading - or "survol" - of Ruyer's text) was something more of a non-differentiated space. Anyway, I just wanted to give you a few (I've many) of my first impressions. You see the importance of page numbers! Right away I was able to go through some of the book. As concerns Bill Viola, yes, I know the film. And your zen comment is as well quite appropriate for an understanding of this "survol" notion: especially when it comes to (like the protozoa) an organism's capability of enjoying itself, or experiencing itself without distancing itself as an object. Za-zen is so much about this non-objectification of the self, while none the less folding in on oneself, allowing the folds of consciousness to multiply. I could not help but think of certain yoga-practices in which one creates a disengaged gaze. A non-spatio-temporal gaze. Again, this would all have to be "looked" into. You wrote, >ps. Does anybody talk about Guattari's 'Chaosmose' in your loose affiliation? Well, none of us has any money! And that book is expensive. Something like 350 francs. I think, I can't remember. I don't know where you are, but that's about 60 U.S. dollars! Books are expensive here. Perhaps I'll get around to buying it soon, and I just found a copy at a library around here but it was checked out (good sign - quite rare to find readers of these type in France). Why, is there something specifically interresting to our current discussion? Or is it just a nice book to work with? Douglas Edric Stanley Paris. 8 Septembre, 1995 ------------------
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