Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 23:27:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Ted Striphas <striphas-AT-email.unc.edu> Subject: Re: intellectuals and the state Hi All, For an interesting cultural studies "take" on D&G, you might want to check out Lawrence Grossberg's _We Gotta Get Out of This Place_ (Routledge, 1992)--particularly chapters one and fourteen. By the way, I'm a bit unclear as to what is mean by mimicry of right populism. Could someone clarify what is meant by that. As I understand it, cultural studies, ideally, shies away from cultural populism (see S. Hall, "Notes on Deconstructing 'the Popular'"). Hope this isn't straying too far from the world of D&G. TED On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Jon Beasley-Murray wrote: > OK, I'm willing to rush and push with Dave on this one. And I do think > that it is relevant to a deleuze-guattari discussion--D&G are, after all, > forever going on about intellectuals (or at least intellection) and the > state. > > On Fri, 7 Jun 1996 owner-deleuze-guattari-digest-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU wrote: > > > From: D Hugh-Jones <dash2-AT-hermes.cam.ac.uk> > > Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 00:04:53 +0100 (BST) > > Subject: Re: FYI/Sokal > > > > May I first apologize in advance for pursuing a non-D&G-relevant thread. > > Anyway, my thought was: is it wise to divide into two camps, the Right > > libertarian cut-everything-but-the-military anti-critical-thought people > > and the Left keep-the-state-funding us people? > > Gramsci said that the intellectuals weren't defined by what they did - > > because everyone thinks in some way, even in the most menial work. They > > were defined by a certain relationship with 'dominant' social classes, > > i.e. were elements in a historic bloc. If we accept this as a working > > hypothesis, then > > > > 1. what relations does the complex body of cultural studies/theory have > > with the state and civil society? I'm not talking about simply economic > > relations, but about the way cultural studies/theory works at the moment > > in terms of producing - no specific targets here - a certain amount of > > 'empty signifiers' that circulate within an economy of discourse? > > I think this is a good question (although the emptiness or otherwise of > the signifiers is irrelevant if not banal). > > I think cultural studies and theory are quite distinct here in their > (imagined, perhaps) relations to the state, civil society and (I would > add) the "people." Cultural studies in fact mimics or mirrors a certain > right-populism, attempting to construct its own left-Gramscian populism > (I have a paper in spoon's marxism archive, also available from the > culture-state web page, about this). > > Theory, at least as D&G see or use it, would have no truck with such a > hegemonic project. > > The specific historical and sociological differences between the French > and the US/British contexts are also, clearly, very important. If theory > changes in no other way in its translation, it changes significantly in > terms of the different institutional arrangements it encounters and the > different ideologies (or, more simply, conceptions) of the relations > between state and civil society that are operative in the various > national contexts. > > > 2. from within the position as it stands how do we analyse the possibilities? > > Rosi Braidotti seems to have made something click with her use of D. in > > the cultural and political project of feminism, and her link with > > environmentalism (see interview pt. ll) > > Braidotti's an odd one. She came over to Duke sometime last year, and we > had a long argument in my apartment about her links with and willingness > to work with the (European super)state, which seems to be at odds with > much of her theoretical practice. I think this is a contradiction > (productive, perhaps, for her), rather than a "use" of theory. > > > Dave Hugh-Jones > > Take care > > Jon > > Jon Beasley-Murray > Literature Program > Duke University > jpb8-AT-acpub.duke.edu > http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/~spoons > ------------------
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