File spoon-archives/deleuze-guattari.archive/deleuze-guattari_1996/d-g_Jun.96, message 5


Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 21:49:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ted Striphas <striphas-AT-email.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: More Pro-Sokal




This really is disappointing.  I am very frustrated to see ultimatums 
posted on a list having to do with free thought and expression.

TED


On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, D Hugh-Jones wrote:

> On Fri, 31 May 1996, Dan Schubert wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 	i'm just finding out about this sokal essay, and haven't yet had 
> > the time to read it.  i've only been able to read what's been posted here 
> > in the last few days.  what surprises me at the gut level, however, is 
> > that there has been no questioning of the ethics of submitting an essay 
> > desinged to dupe.  whatever the postmodern critique of science might be, 
> > it is not out to dupe science or scientists.  the critiques that i've 
> > read have always been either cordial or sincere (though not necessarily 
> > both).  sokal's submission seems to be neither.
> > 
> > dan
> > 
> 
> Well you really do have a great sense of humour don't you? Sokal
> was taking the piss out of the fact that most poststructuralist theory 
> is, without wishing to essentialize a dynamic and contested discursive 
> moment, a load of wank. He comes in a long and honourable line of amateur 
> fraudsters who perform the useful task of exposing the pretentiousness of 
> their betters. And IMHFO, just to add my two penn'orth, he's right - what 
> passes for theory in academic circles is the intellectual equivalent of 
> bubble gum, churned out solely in order to keep the otherwise useless in 
> work.
> 
> I mean Foucault was fairly alright and some of the stuff on this list is
> pretty ridiculous. Take a look at Deleuze and Guattari or better still 
> pound your way through Anti-Oedipus. It's a fucking disgrace to the species.
> 
> In case anyone disagrees, I challenge them to email me personally with an 
> interpretation in simple words of a poststructuralist theory of their choice.
> I honestly believe that it will either be patently stupid, patently 
> obvious, or patent nonsense.
> 
> And Derrida and that lot? They're all twats too.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Dave Hugh-Jones
> A Rush and a Push and the Land is ours
> dash2-AT-cam.ac.uk
> 
> 
> 

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