Date:         Mon, 11 Mar 96 07:38:10 EDT
From: W Ted Rogers <WTR100F-AT-oduvm.cc.odu.edu>
Subject:      Re: deleuze-guattari-digest V1 #172


RE: punk and D&G. In addition to punk, I would like to see a discussion
around what everyone thinks D&G would make of that late '70s phenom
called Throbbing Gristle, a sort of Mad English Eisturzende Neubaten.
It seems to me that they were quite nomadic in their resistance to
co-optation and their use of industrial noise [Cage, again]. When they
felt they had exhausted the possible transgressions through music they
mutated into the multi-media Psychic TV, although I do think PTV's
music suffered some in the mutation from TG's industrial music for
industrial people. Genesis P-Orridge, the main maniac behind TG and PTV
has also theorized against Muzak, advocating a "nomadic" resistance.

The reason I bring TG up is that it seems like it was more punk than
punk, especially given the Sex Pistol's rapid disintegration. The punk
that America discovered in the '80s was [and is] a watered down "safe
as milk" version of the anarchy and rage so aptly expressed by the Pistols.
Although some ambient filters through the industrial wasteland ploughed by
Throbbing Gristle and Einsturzende Neubaten, no one has done it so well,
so shocking.

Just some rapid eye movements on a Monday AM.  Ted

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