Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:42:38 -0400
From: jeff osborne <jcosborne-AT-uky.campus.mci.net>
Subject: RE: D and phenomenology


i'm not a frequent poster (in fact, i almost never do), but this thread is
particularly relevant to some things that i am beginning to work on at the
moment.  i haven't (yet) read difference and repetition or logic of sense,
but it seems to me that deleuze's book on foucault captures some of
deleuze's antagonisms (through a reading of foucault which is
anti-hermeneutical in that it is a reading alongside foucault's writing, a
stuttering that makes foucault stutter and along with that the project of
positing a "lived" or "raw" experience) toward the kind of phenomenology
that mereleau-ponty practiced.  

a friend of mine, however, insists that deleuze owes much to the
phenomenological tradition (from husserl to merleau-ponty) especially
regarding concepts like "the event" and "bwo."  and wasn't bergson a kind
of phenomenolgist?  i also see a correlation between heidegger's notion of
systems of relevance and deterr-reterr-terr-itory.  

i would be mighty interested in any attempt to express the relation between
the bwo, the event, sense, and more traditional phenomenological projects.


--jeff osborne

At 05:15 AM 4/24/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, It is good that you blurted it out of course; I think the opposite
>however, and that, for example the BwO, is very much a part of
>phenomenological thought. It is the amorphosnous of such  BwO's that lead to
>kinds of experience, taking as a starting point a specific subjectivity.  Its
>is this starting point of human senses that the BwO experiments.("seeing with
>the skin")  Also lets not forget D's interest in the writing of DeSade,
>Bergson, and Burroughs.
>S.H.C. from MCAD
>___________________________________________________________________________
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>From: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU on Thu, Apr 23, 1998 11:42
>PM
>Subject: Re: D and phenomenology
>To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
>
>>Yes, please address this question.  The question and the answer are
>>significant to the work that I'm doing.  I have little awareness of
>>Deleuze's position against "phenomenology and hermeneutics."  Where would I
>>find more information on this?
>>Leila Rae
>>____________________________________________________________
>>>Could you delve into " Deleuze's orientation against phenomenology and
>>>hermeneutics" a little more? shc MCAD
>
>
>
>
>Thanks for the interest,.. I just sort of blurted that out, assuming that I
>was right to think that Deleuze has very much less of a commitment to the
>phenomenological tradition than eg Derrida. Deleuze seems to have admired
>Hume, Spinoza, ok, Nietzsche too.. Derrida perhaps has a more traditional
>view of the european philosophical canon.. Hegel, Heidegger....
>so I don't know that I can add anything very helpful, & I may be totally
>wrong. But pursuing it may be worthwhile, if some people out there are
>willing and able to contribute.
>And surely (?) deleuze's points against interpretation are a problem for
>hermeneutics....
>fwiw
>
>JRM
>
>
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