From: Unleesh-AT-aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:32:54 EDT Subject: Re: Re: RE: academia, fear, custard Perhaps "reform vs. revolution" is too simplistic and we need to create new lines of thought. My understanding of the molecular revolution is that it undoes such hard and fast distinctions. Kropotkin's theory of revolution was pretty chaos science : it's worth looking at. No Bolshevik seizure of the state, etc. He compared it to a storm, that develops with its own logic and cannot be predicted nor controlled nor outright created. But more favorable conditions for that storm could be created on the "molecular" level (although he didn't use that term.) When you were talking about flexible limitations, I thought of the Celtic notion of the "geas". Kings and people in specialized institutions were surrounded by these so the whole thing was a sort of game to play within those parameters. It can be fun sometimes to see how well one can play within a restricted space. I remember sometimes enjoying the energy buildup that occurred when I had to cram for a test or get a paper out at the last minute ... would I be able to make it? It could be amusing to see how close to the limit I could push things, so in that way the limit became creative for me. I like your idea of a creative synthesis between the two types of creativity. I think limiting oneself can open up new visions. It can be interesting, for example, to tie one arm up and go about one's day like that. While it appears to be a limitation, it creates a new experience you never would have had. Perhaps "rigour" is an ideal being discussed here rather than institutionalized coercion, the latter I always abhor. Severity can be very inspiring, so sometimes a severe, formidable teacher can bring out interesting things in us. I personally just don't visualize this only happening within the university setting, and would like to see master/apprentice, freeform greek style schools forming everywhere. One can learn from anyone. Flexible forms can be created to legitimate such knowledge. If professors can create such forums, wonderful. I have had awesome professors who would allow me an independent study where I could go and learn from someone, and with a minimum of papers, pass. So one could go to a bum on the street and take hir on as a teacher, and through writing a paper or audiovisual report, or whatever, get that validated. There's many options. "and...and...and..." (un)leash
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