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From: Assad Dib <A.M.Dib-AT-lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: boundaries in flow
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:48:53 +0000


At 05:31 PM 10/26/98 EST, Paul you wrote:

  Hence, we might here think of the experiences we undergo when we make
>love as a model of (indi)different/ciation.  In a play of sensations and
>spatio-temporal dyamisms, our love-making continuously differentiatiates
>itself in a dynamic multiplicity similar to Bergson's idea of duration. This
>dynamic moment of love making represents the series of flows in which our
>individuated molar self is torn to pieces and we enter a state of pure
>dismemberment in sensation.  As the love-making progresses, tensions mount,
>pain/pleasure increases, and eventually the undifferentiated flow of
>sensations reaches a plateau in which its difference can no longer be taken
>any further.  This latter moment represents a self-mediating and determining
>form of difference that defines its own proper limits and form in
>actualization.

An interesting example. However, there are various things that needs
clarification. Before that, 
I would like to state the following:

I've been on this list for more than four years. The most irritating element in 
the discussions, emerging now and then on this list, is the generality of
articulations made 
on Deleuze's thoughts. I admit that I am also inflicted by that tendency.
Deleuze's own
language has its own spells and mystification. Crack these GODS!! 

Well, the argument might go 
that his thoughts 
are against the established naturality of the existing systems. Long Live
the stutterer!! I know
there will be many people around who will object and say well you have
misunderstood Deleuze!!
It might be this is the case!!! I think the challenge that faces many
deleuze's admirers is to make 
his encounters enriching to our 'own' becomings. I cannot see at the moment
that this can be possible 
except through the connectivity that we can make with the already 'given' in
the various disciplines. 
I reckon that we are still (or perhaps myself only!!) not able to make
efficient articulation, or to use Deleuze's terminology, the intermezzo
conceptualisation. There are various works on deleuze in the 
market, (it is a deleuzean century!!!!), but most of them are just a sort of
illustration and explanations 
to his thoughts. Unfortunately, even those books (i do not want to name
them) that have a 'tint' of 
application, they are actually received in an obscurantist and elitist format. 

Comparably to Foucault's influence, the enigma is wide enough to let us
think about the 
necessity of making Deleuze's interventions more accessible. Accessibility
does not entail simplicity and 
less rigor. But it should have the milieu that tear those spells and
mystification which are propelled by
French style itself.      

Oooopsss... I have to stop now... I have an appointment. Sorry Paul later I
shall ask you the 
questions of clarification. Continue your discussions, they are a good start:)))

amdib


   

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