File spoon-archives/deleuze-guattari.archive/deleuze-guattari_1998/deleuze-guattari.9810, message 4


Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:05:31 +0100
From: Daniel Haines <daniel-AT-tw2.com>
Subject: Re: Rhizo-Matic . Potato Heights.


michelle phil lewis-king wrote:

> No ammount of preference for frantic animation a la disney land or infantile
> mind dervishing or reading upside down on a  fairground ride while
> listening to Frank Sinatra or Throbbing Gristle on acid will escape the
> silence of certain words or the impossibility of certain texts. No ammount
> of rubbing down a partner,walking around with pages stuck to one's head or
> organising texts into 'happenings' is going to get away from the cruel
> persistence of the  Same, or provide protection against the pain of its
> affects. 

how eloquently put! this had me in stitches, really, and i completely
take your point.  but at the same time, you're maybe overstating this...
although we always fall back into the Same at some level, the new, the
different also exists and is accesible NOW!  the Same is a patern that
repeats through time (in extension,as the philosophers say), and so in
that sense is always immanent and subject to the possibility of
variation, and variation may cut from an extensive to an intensive
continuum which passes through thresholds and which reacts back on the
pattern and changes it.  

change, after all, is not just possible or illusory, it is actual and
real and happening now - it is a condition of ... well, of anything...
as is repetition.

i do take you point that it is very easy to imagine you are  engaged in
a real production or becoming when you are just performing - with a
safety net. 

there's interesting stuff in gurdjieff about how we tend to operate on
one "false" center (emotional, physical, intellectual ) the most, and
that center imitates the others without us realising, plays at them,
making us think we feel something, or feel we think something.... 

not sure about the terms/conceptual framework, but made sense to me in
terms of how our little egos like to believe they encompass everything
about our selves, while really they're just an island...
and so "reading upside down on a  fairground ride while
> listening to Frank Sinatra or Throbbing Gristle on acid" 
can be just playing too.

just rambling, really...

dan h.

-- 
Ware ware Karate-do o shugyo surumonowa,
Tsuneni bushido seishin o wasurezu,
Wa to nin o motte nashi,
Soshite tsutomereba kanarazu tasu.

We who study Karate-do,
Should never forget the spirit of the samurai,
With peace, perseverance and hard work,
We will reach our goal without failure.

   

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