File spoon-archives/deleuze-guattari.archive/deleuze-guattari_1998/deleuze-guattari.9812, message 121


Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:29:54 +0000
From: Daniel Haines <daniel-AT-tw2.com>
Subject: Re: Abortionists of Unity [for mark]


Inna Runova Semetsky wrote:
> 
> It IS a rhizome - it's just that we usually see it as an illustration, in
> books,
> it's rhizome projected on page. They are all different PLANES there,
> different orders, different layers. Doesn't fold involve twisted orders?

I think it would be a bit more pragmatic to say it can be used as a
rhizome rather than it "IS" a rhizome?  It can also just be are
hierarchic tree-structure.

but I agree totally!

dan h.

>> On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Daniel Haines wrote:
> Mark Crosby wrote: > >
> > > I'm probably misunderstanding you, and I don't know
> > > much about Cabbalistic trees, but isn't the tree of
> > > medieval scholasts usually a hierarchy with God at
> > > the top then working down through angels, powers,
> > > etc, to man, animals and demons, or some such?  This
> > > is definitely NOT the rhizome of Deleuze and
> > > Guattari.  I also do not think they would accept the
> > > possibility of "classificatio in totum" (if that
> > > means a 'total classification' -- my Latin is very ad
> > > hoc ;-)
> >
> > This is correct for the traditional notion of the Tree of Life (pre-20th
> > Century); but (and this is one of the reasons why I'm often trying to
> > sneak him onto this list) Crowley was lead to a radically different idea
> > of what the tree of life was about.  Seeing it as a MAP rather than a
> > TRACING, he conceives of the tree as rather more dynamic, in flux than
> > previous cabbalists.  What is the tree? It is a MAP made of points and
> > lines.  A key d&g question: are the lines subjected to the points (as
> > points of blocking), or are the points just where lines intersect or
> > pass through?   by making the tree a MAP crowley needs to deal with
> > lines... and this entails an altogether more rhizomatic approach.   In
> > the obviously hierarchic and stratified structure, rhizomes begins to
> > sprout... certainly there are no "demons" when you reach Malkuth (10) -
> > rather, it is Kether (1) for another - as yet virtual - tree of life,
> > to be made by experimentation...
> >
> > dan h.
> > --
> > http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/chupacabras/48/
> > http://www.tw2.com/staff/daniel/
> >
> > Ware ware Karate-do o shugyo surumonowa,
> > Tsuneni bushido seishin o wasurezu,
> > Wa to nin o motte nashi,
> > Soshite tsutomereba kanarazu tasu.
> >
> > We who study Karate-do,
> > Should never forget the spirit of the samurai,
> > With peace, perseverance and hard work,
> > We will reach our goal without failure.
> >
> >
> >

-- 
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http://www.tw2.com/staff/daniel/

Ware ware Karate-do o shugyo surumonowa,
Tsuneni bushido seishin o wasurezu,
Wa to nin o motte nashi,
Soshite tsutomereba kanarazu tasu.

We who study Karate-do,
Should never forget the spirit of the samurai,
With peace, perseverance and hard work,
We will reach our goal without failure.

   

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