Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:09:11 -0600
From: Bryan Alexander <balexand-AT-centenary.edu>
Subject: Re: Durkheim


One quick answer, before the email collapses again:
	The vast expansion of work hours in modern life, as opposed to the
relatively small amount spent in (say) hunter-gatherer, or some
agricultural societies.  Cf Sahlins, etc.  This won't convince the
arbeit mach frei mob of rah-rah modernists, but goes some way to those
recognizing the internal and external consequences of overwork.

Inna Runova Semetsky wrote:
> 
> Yes, I wonder what wd Taylor say about Deleuze? On the other hand taylor
> introduces the subtle language of personal resonance so that we can speak
> and understand the language poets use - and deleuze talks
> about poetic undertaking and artistic expression. But than rationalist
> conclusion goes toward condemning subjectivism altogether....
> inna
> 
> On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Matthew King wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 6 Dec 1998 Unleesh-AT-aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > See Dorothy Lee's work .... Tribal peoples share common core values which tend
> > > to be similar, but outward expressions of what WE would call "individuality"
> > > flourish, are expected,  and encouraged. There is a great deal of freedom and
> > > respect for autonomy within the range of these values. I could document this
> > > for anyone if they like.
> >
> > I would, please.  One often comes across people (Rorty, Habermas, Fraser,
> > Walzer, Taylor, and so on) responding to Foucault by saying,
> > "Look, first admit to the obvious increase in personal autonomy that
> > modernity has given us, then we'll talk!"  It might be good to have
> > something concrete to illustrate the claim that that's not at all
> > obvious--although I fear that that crew would not recognize anything as
> > such an illustration anyway....
> >
> > I'll leave it to someone else to figure out how D&G fit in here--given
> > their quasi-history in Anti-Oedipus, does it make sense to say that the
> > capitalist socius offers more freedom than the primitive one--more flows,
> > more machinic connections, more freedom?
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> >  ---Matthew A. King---Department of Philosophy---York University, Toronto---
> >        "In the conviction that it is possible you may depart from life
> >         at once, act and speak and think in every case accordingly."
> >  ----------------------------(Marcus Aurelius)------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >