From: Unleesh-AT-aol.com
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:34:41 EST
Subject: Re:  Re:Why We Should Not Become Nazis


"and what does that mean, exactly? I mean, practically? what does playing
with the virtuality of fascism involve?"

Playing with the inner military figure of rigidity, playing with purity,
puritanism, playing with asceticism, playing with hatred, playing with
severity and discipline ....

Practically? Invoke Geburah. Dress up as a cop. Become Captain Beefheart in
the studio (known to be a "musical fascist".) Invoke one of the famous nazi-
like directors of the 30's along with riding crop and boots. Become a Master
in an SM scene. Leatherplay.

"so it's okay for "us" to "desire our own repression" as long as the
state doesn't let us have it? phew!"

No no no no this isn't what i meant at all. "Fascism ---- anarchism" becomes a
pole to play with, for desire to slide across, to make desire intense by
stretching it and creating some tension and polarity ; it is part of desire
--- this very stretching --- but if one pole is reified and then made the
object OF desire, confusion sets in. If fascism becomes the object of desire
rather than part of the movement of desire, then even if "the state" is not
involved, it can become a microfascism.

"don't you mean "In practical terms, it would wipe out
all the jews, poles, queers, and gypsies it could find." ?  don't make
"difference" just another bullshit abstraction from your armchair."

Well, I agree with you here, but I was using "difference" because fascism will
not necessarily incarnate itself in a recognizable form and not necessarily
isolate the same elements of difference. There may be new differences it
attempts to genocide. You forgot to include Native Americans and Tasmanians as
well. :P

"what constitutes "legitimacy" here, and what spectrum do you mean?" I simply
mean within the rubric of AntiOedipus. And it should be "paranoid -- schizo",
"fascist -- anarchist ... these aren't identical terms, but parallel.

"grow up! - you think you can come up with some
clever "reason" for people not to  commit genocide? some philosophical
argument that "proves' we should all be nice to ech other really?"

I understand that there are all sorts of macro political, social, economic,
historical forces that come together to create fascism. I was simply
responding to a notion of how one might ethically counter fascism without
invoking "right" or "wrong". I was not intending on printing this out as a
prescription to anyone!!

As far as "growing up", perhaps you could be more specific as to which
developmental scheme in your judgement I should apply myself towards....

(un)leash