Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:32:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Rooney <rooney-AT-tiger.cc.oxy.edu>
Subject: Re:  To destratify or not to destratify




On Sun, 20 Dec 1998 Unleesh-AT-aol.com wrote:

> 
> Let's start a new line of inquiry, which is much more to the point, "M", which
> has to do with your very Personal Angst against yours truly, an extremely
> molar, reactive, ressentiment-filled, vendetta-stream which is completely
> disrupting any sort of line of progression which could fill the plane and
> create some sort of plateau here.

Hey, it's nothing personal, chuckles.  You just
get all worked up when I point out the obvious
incoherence of your mystic elfquest.  You want
to construct something new.  That's swell.  All
I did was to ask you how you tell the difference
between destratification and restratification.
Y'know: how do you differentiate a liberating 
destruction of repressive tropes in a bold new
rhizome-construction freeplay from, say, lining
up for some Guyana-special Kool-Aid?  Your non-
answer came down to "I know what I want".  Well,
if you don't know how to tell the difference,
how do you know you're not slouching towards a
fat, middle-aged born-again bourgeois entropy?
This is a simple, pragmatic question which you
have utterly failed to answer.  Until you do,
every time you babble on about destratifying
against dogmatic rationalism, I will point out
your imperial nudity.  This isn't a vendetta;
it's revolutionary praxis, man.  If you can't
build it, they will not come.


> I am not going to be passive as you engage in your little snide
> inquisition. You want a fight, asshole, I'm going to go down fighting. This is
> no fucking academic affair for me. You can call it my fascist pole and I don't
> give a crap. What I know is the politics of autonomy, and I'm well enough
> familiar with the politics of the anarchist milieu to know that when there's
> an awesome Pragmatic Space happening and a saboteur enters, you don't waste
> your fucking time engaging in "free speech" debates while the pragmatic
> freedom is being eroded ; you engage in war, because you are being warred
> upon. So why don't you fucking put up --- something substantial, creative, and
> based upon something other than idiotic attack or ridicule upon me --- or shut
> up?

"Put up or shut up" ... ah, this must be the famous
disjunctive synthesis.  Isn't "love me or leave it!"
closer to what you mean?  So sorry to burst your self-
important bubble by pointing out your clownishness in
public.


> Because there are few enough fun forums in my life that I will not sit
> passively and have this playground I enjoy disrupted by a blathering bully.
> And this issue I will fucking debate, because this to me is a real issue, not
> academic, and very much worthy of the tactics of a war machine. Anyone
> interested in only academics better stand out of the way, cuz I'm ready to
> fracas.

You're rather late with your challenge: when you 
encouraged us all to destratify freely a week ago, 
I offered to help you become a body without organs, 
but you declined to tell me where to find you.  
So come and get it, you logorhettic anarchist poseur.


Cordially,

M.