File spoon-archives/deleuze-guattari.archive/deleuze-guattari_1998/deleuze-guattari.9812, message 494


Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 07:27:27 -0600
From: Bruce Hagood <hagood-AT-ro.com>
Subject: Re: Valerian


Bottom line:  The less medication one uses--legal or illegal, and that
includes all these herbs--the better.  ALL medications, including all
herbs, have side effects.

        Merry Christmas,

              BH

Mark Crosby wrote:

> ---Charles Gavette <chaosmosis-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Valeriana officinalis has some some-effects that
> some people have complianed about. Like St John's
> Wort, it has its down sides. Both can actually cause
> anxiety in some persons.
>
> For sure. Serotonin reuptake inhibition is a very
> tricky thing, sometimes working as desired, sometimes
> just the opposite.  This seems especially true of
> St.John's Wort -- worked well for a while, then bang!
>  Haven't used Valerian long enough to notice same
> effect.  (Melatonin, which is supposed to improve
> dreams, was terrible for me!)
>
> Another one I'm sure you're familiar with that seems
> to operate in a different, more effective way (for
> me) is Lobelia
>
> I used to gather herbs years ago.  Any good info on
> the Web about making extracts Charles? (Tissanes
> don't fit well with my busy schedule these days and
> commercial preparations are SO expensive) Thanks, Mark
>
> P.S., despite my scepticism, the more I experiment
> with these things, the more I suspect there IS some
> sort of 'energy body' that really has control of
> these effects/affects.
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