From: Jeanraiso-AT-aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 05:53:35 EST
Subject: Re : Re: Re : Re:  destratify; cancer, schizophrenia, aids, osho


Unleesh wrote:
<< ...one of the interesting diagnostic characteristics of Schizophrenics is
 their "Inability [or unwillingness] to Filter" ; they lose their filters ...
>>
 
yes and... in this state of no-filtering aren't you still filtering something?
namely the ability for distanciation and noticing similarities and creating
words that honor that discoveries;
and the feeling of community that come with it;

 I imagine that scene in paleolithical times:  
one day , at the beginning of langage, one people looking at her recently dead
fellow, instead of staying in the here and now flow (like  the chimpanzees do)
suddenly takes distance with her attention,  notices some
similarities/differences   between the dead body and her own , between this
encounter and a past encounter with a dead fellow, starts imagining her own
'death', feels excited and anxious from that realisation, and creates  a new
vocal to celebrate that anxiety-excitment-awe; something like: "she is dead!";
the other people are attracted by this new vocal creation; they come close and
start noticing a similarity between their own experience in front of the dead
fellow and what the new vocal triggers in them; and they start to be
fascinated by that and to sing and dance together "she is dead";  and that
increases the feeling of community-anxiety-nostalgia for the here and now:
that is the first mourning; and then it becomes unbeareable, they have to
plunge again in the here and now: they invent the  first feast;
but soon they name it a "feast" and  all the symbolic-dramatic-complex-
evolutionary circus is on track...
   
and it seems impossible to come out of the circus; if you think your are not
filtering, by saying it (like osho,  or a schizophren) you create attraction
or repulsion, and fascination, and thus filtering...
and you could only find new ways or more healthy ways to play it; to relearn
to plunge in the here and now  and weaving new threads between extatic
attention-time and social attention-community-time. Even if the social becomes
extatic (like in Osho's ahsram at its best or in a groupe of a few friends
starting to be very free with each other) your are still confronted to what
relationship you have with the non-extatic social and its tremendous inertia;
(its interesting to notice that in the fascist Oregon period of Osho the
neareast city outside was considered as an ennemy)

I am aware that all of that is extremely simplistic ; but I am happy to share
it; and would be interested by feedbacks or continuations and to know if some
of what I tried to express is  related to some already well known philosophy
of langage stuff, and which one.

Jean r.