Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:16:52 +0000
From: Daniel Haines <daniel-AT-tw2.com>
Subject: Re: critical marx


Unleesh-AT-aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/7/99 2:00:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, daniel-AT-tw2.com
> writes:
> 
> << do you really think that, say, the idea of "class struggle" is
>  sufficient here? that it makes everything fall into place?  it seems a
>  bit anthropomorphic, to say the very least. >>
> 
> But again, I'm not talking about Marx! The post you quote is trying to point
> out that a great variety of social critique is Reduced and Totalized by
> intellectuals under the heading of "Marx" or "Marxism", and Marx is not the
> sum total of working class critiques of power. Also, if you read my later post
> on racism, i try to explain how power can turn the difficulties of difference
> into divisions ... so it's not as if power itself creates differences nor the
> difficulties that arrive when differences meet ... but how things are
> construed ... and encouraging tendencies ... we see this very clearly in the
> modern world with the CIA funding certain tendencies etc

I see your point here, and there is certainly  a way of reducing and
dis-empowering critique by labelling in "marxist" when that is only part
of where it's at. that said, i didn't say you were "talking about marx"
or even that you are a marxist.  you are using terms and phrases in a
way that specifically relates to the work of Karl Marx, however, and
saying that that's not what you're talking ABOUT is not really the
point.  you have used the idea of a class struggle in several posts, and
I was asking if you thought that was a sufficiently complex concept to
account for the course of historical events.

do you?

dan h.99

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