Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:01:06 +0000
From: Daniel Haines <daniel-AT-tw2.com>
Subject: Re: no filters


Nevrothus-AT-aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/7/99 9:33:52 AM, you wrote:
> 
> <<if this were so, how would you be able to write it? how would you be
> able to articulate it into language with content and expression,
> selecting and ordering from the flow of unformed matter?
> 
> hmmn?
> 
> dan  h.99>>
> 
> You forgot about reference here Dan.  I can refer to something undescribable
> and incoherent (like unleash's unfiltered thought).
> 
> J.


but I said 'write it' not 'write about it'...  but okay, yes you can
refer to such experiences... my point was more that a person with no
filters does not communicate with you, because communication is through
filters/is a filter.

to have no filters, perhaps, is to be a catatonic schizophrenic.  

not chatty types, generally...

it is important not to confuse the schizo process of extending
asignifying breaks and becomings, with schizophrenia; d&g are not
advocates of political anarchy,  or the abolition of reason.  nor are
they romantics who give sovereignty to some kind of inner
expressive/creative self or the "human spirit"... as I understand them
that is a kind of neurotic self-obsession that is on another level
entirely to the one d&g address...  I think it is important to remember
that the unconscious is just that, un-conscious... articulating the
noise that fills our heads but that we normally assume/ experience as
"me" is not the same as somehow creating unconscious flows or unleashing
revolutionary potentials. which is not to say it isn't a valuable
process - it helps us to see how full of shit 'we' are most of the time,
jabbering away with our "chattering monkey mind"....  this is not,
though, what d&g are talking about... it is within the realm of
consciousness, it is ego-work.  words and thoughts don't come into the
unonscious, and even refering to it becomes problematic once we close
down the theatre of representation.  that's why d&g advocate
experimentation rather than situationist-style dialectical discussion!!
you can't talk yourself into a becoming or think yourself through a
de-territorialisation...one reason why the "talking cure" has such
limitations for d&g.

one way of thinking about it which d&g offer is in terms of intensive
continuums and thresholds - passing in an absolute break from one
"molar" state to a "molecular" becoming - and our articulating, symbolic
consciousness does not pass across this kind of threshold - hence my
question:

>how would you be
> able to articulate it into language with content and expression,
> selecting and ordering from the flow of unformed matter?

??

dan h.99
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