From: Unleesh-AT-aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:03:55 EST
Subject: Re:  Re:  Re : Re: no filters


"Lovely verb Unleesh; full of beautiful 1960's resonances. You know that
Manson and the Family were really into _Stranger in a Strange Land_ do
you? "

What does this mean? I hear there are registered Republicans who are in jail
for murder. And???

Did you know that AntiOedipus has alot of 1960's resonances? Well, perhaps we
should dismiss it entirely.

Oh, but I'm sorry, I forgot, "Stranger in a Strange Land" does not qualify as
serious enough ... funny, I thought D&G appreciated concepts wherever they
were produced ...

"Or "I was too fucked up to work out what was happening (but I'd never do 
drugs)." "

That might be your translation for your experience, but it would not apply to
mine. I was actually quite an astute observer. I have lots of notes from that
time. Unfortunately for you I suppose you are in no position to evaluate given
that you have no in-ness on my experience. So in this regard, your reason will
have to consult with mine in order to get anywhere, because only mine has
access to the experience. Sorry.

"Would you think it awfully academic of me if I pointed out that you don't
know what 'phenomenologically' means?"

Oh, I do ... and if you study phenomenological psychology, you'll see I'm
using it in a way consistent with that discipline.

""I really hated hippies. Hippies were scum.""

I'm glad you said this. You've really just exposed your own prejudices. And I
have a few words to say about this.

"Hippie" has become a signifier that stops many cold in their tracks,
hypnotically triggering all sorts of associational apoplexies, reminding
people of things they don't want to remember, drug days, compromises they left
behind, etc. And therefore anything that even leads to that signifier, any
behavior, attitude, or linguistic style that is even vaguely reminiscent, must
be exorcised, pushed away, unthought. This is widely symptomatic of our time.
Thus, all sorts of divergent and wild lines of flight are marginalized and
simply dismissed, guilty through association, thrown in a trashcan labelled
"hippie". A shame. A shame that otherwise thoughtful people  can lose all
thoughtfulness and not deconstruct their associational chains enough to allow
for some freedom. I find this curious, because I am neither a "hippie" nor
have I had an interest in being one, yet I find that if I act or speak in ways
that are subjectively too close to someone else's idea of what a "hippie" is,
then that dread signifier overshadows all action and interaction. What a
pleasantly fucking convenient way to dismiss anything we don't like or that
makes us feel uncomfortable! Is thought ever dismissive, or is it, rather in
its full, thoughtful? While I have no interest in cultivating a 
"hippie" aesthetic, faced with the even greater idiocy of anti-hippiedom, I
decided long ago I wasn't going to waste my time "proving" I was not a
"hippie" to people who were caught up in some emotional plague regarding that
aesthetic. I fully understand for instance the punk critique of the hippies,
and think there was some genuine and legitimate angst there, but I also
recognize that sometimes style differences are just style differences. Many of
those in the 60's who were called "hippies" would not have identified as such
at all. To call all people who were experimenting "hippies" is pretty
unsophisticated.

"so it's my genitals"

No, it's the strata your genitals place you into ... the levels of gender
training your genitals initiate you into in this society ... it's a gender
issue, not a genital issue ...