Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: TMB <tblan-AT-telerama.lm.com> Subject: Re: Dialectics On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Paul Bryant wrote: > TMB-- > > You are right to point out the importance of semantic analysis as > central to any discussion. I particularly like your example > surrounding multiple ways of viewing a computer program and the need > to clarify which perspective is at work when conflicts arise. > However, as I saw it, I had clearly demarcated my concept of > "critique" and your replies struck me as gesturing to the effect that > they appeared to say "but what about this, isn't there something > else?" Of course there's something else, but I wasn't talking about > that something else at that time. One can't talk about everything > yanno. Taking up Deleuze-speak for a moment, the concept of critique > that I offered marked the singularities embedded in the practice of > critique well enough to cover the systematic variations or different > forms of critique found in diverse actualizations of this event. > Here, "singularity" is roughly equivalant to what you seem to mean by > "boiling point" or "crisis point". As such, it's what might be called > a well-formed concept. Further, that concept also anticipates what > takes place in critique, which is to say, something is produced. This > differs from a straight argumentative approach insofar as such > approaches tend to set two positions in opposition to one another so > that one position might be summarily dismissed upon failing to meet > the requirements of reason or some other criteria. In this context, > nothing really changes except for the fact that were left with one > alternative where before we had two. Critique, on the other hand, > provides us with new concepts or modes of motion as can be aptly seen > in Foucault's archaeologies and geneaologies. As such, it's a > positive project, despite the fact that it destroys as it produces. > Wasn't it Sartre that said we have to destroy in order to create? > > As for your questions why someone uses this term or that term in order > to describe their project, I can only say that is a thinker's way of > naming his or her particular style of critique. For there is not one > way of carrying out critique, but many. Along these lines, it is > always interesting to look at the presuppositions of these particular > modes of critique, to determine what values they embody, what their > aims are, what their strengths are, what their limitations are. This > would be a critique of critique, or, perhaps, the perspectivism that > Deleuze describes as the only means of total critique in _Nietzsche > and Philosophy_. Well, that's about all I have to say about that. > > Regards, > > Paul > Ok, we're roughly in agreement, though I definitly don't want to use critique as far as you do, I think there is a serious loss. We agree vis a vis "argument". The Sartrean phrase is ok, but a little, um, Sartrean, and bo(u)n(e)d up in rather extreme terms. Your mention of "criteria" has interesting and obvious resonances with "critique". Generally, the notion of "critique" has a *mood* which I find to be far too "in place" and continuously operative. I don't stay in Deleuze-speak too long as it lacks to many things in my view and is, indeed, all too restricted to the mood of "critique" as you use it. What is it? I don't know. You're making it the "grandest" term, that is clearly meant to admit of may things. This reads to me rather as a bit of an imperialist gesture, that seeks to expand one mood out to a position of domination or totalization. To keep a certain sense of "fight", perhaps, and an umbilical chord to the mother of physics and negation as auto-nourishment along the way, or failure to broach any moment of a certain kind of cessation or chromatic alternative. The only reason I'm being so direct and honest about this is simply because I think that is what is likely at work. I don't mean to be offensive, and identify something perhaps a bit personal (not to mention potentially quite wrong, oof course) not in hopes of eliminating it, but, indeed, simply to make room for more basic things, which perhaps is the only good excuse for such an intrusion. Really, in this context the "grandest" or a really "big" term here would appear to be be "thinking", left a bit open, which is about right for that level. I can't see genealogy and archaeology as "critique" plain and simple, nor do I find an expanded version of the term quite fitting, but it might not matter too much. The language of "singularities", etc., doesn't work, in my opinion (it looks just horrible to me, but I'm also a bit enticed by it; I'm not dismissing at all, if you can believe it), but it can be made to work. It generally all presupposes a founding mood and experiential condition that is a bit simplistic and grounded in, suprisingly, an often rather argumentative and decidedly metaphysical/constructionist (not to mention perhaps rather masculine) approach that moves a bit too quickly to either "destruction" or polemics, for that matter (witness this list at times). I am never more than partially in Deleuze and Guattari, to say the least. I definitely move, semantically, into specific "enterminations", as I call them, rather than see in terms of the black and white of "creation and destruction" or in terms of the metaphysics of D/G (so what I am I doing here, you may well ask.) The terms I tend to want to use to get at the positive side of things are: the "en-" in general, "econstruction", thoughtaction as a somewhat subject-oriented version of power (action) knowledge (thought). When I hear the word "creation", I get queezy and nauseated. I always end up insisting, or rather, since I'm never quite "in" here (at least), *ensisting* on an independent notion of nonviolence, which resonates with a couple of main issues you point to: making room, and oppositionality. The general failure to recognize this is a very serious and highly substantive issue, in my view, and operates everywhere, anyhow. When these issues are opened up (and it takes a lot of work despite how easy it is), nonviolence emerges as a crucial (hehe) issue. In the bargain, the general Deleuzian tapestry or machinics break down fully, as they are founded on a largely oppositional grounding, one that is a bit hidden, and have a consistency that decidedly does not make room in certain, again crucial, ways. Generally, I tend to want to free terms up and accomplish a microtic "bricolage" with terms, in a rich ground, while the DG space usually involves extending their meaning a bit too much for me, as, precisely, in how you think "critique" here. I could think that, but ultimately it would lead to a conformity I guess I can't tolerate, which may be my weakness. But, I ensist on that weakness, precisely, as part of my ground out of which language, terms, definitions, etc,. precipitate. There's a notion for you, by the way: precipitation, which I find very helpful in general around this area, and in conjunction with the notion of "creation", a term I really dislike. In terms of Deleuze, I didn't like the quotes that recently surfaced, or precipitated, on here, the language was far too hubristic, totalistic, and so forth. There is a kind of object side of things with D that vaunts many notions of plurality and so forth, but on another side (subject? I don't know), it rilly rilly feels like business as usual, which I am quite sick of. No offense intended. My way of thinking and what not is better, so I'm sticking to it. It's not "mine" exactly, but it's not D and G, that's for sure. When I try to indicate the "ground thing", again I'm given to a kind of analogy: I see the person and the person-grounds as a kind of gaseous semi morphous body thing. I see this as having phases and colors, and varieties of solidity and gaseousness. Strictly an analogy. But anyhow, generally, I prefer a very wide chromatic range, whereas the range I find in DG is rather narrow. I don't know why access to this "gas" thing (being, perhaps?) is so closed off. To do so, one has to go back to like 6th grade and work through a bunch of stuff, I think, particularly masculine/feminine, in part, also violence, and some other things, I guess. Otherwise, you still have the basic operating grounds and then these baroque developments which keep this other side of things closed off. Opening it up does not mean, however, merely an alternative chromatics, but radical paradigmatic shift, I think, that entails the inclusion of the business of the chromatics, as it were, as part of the progression. Perhaps this all already takes in D and G. I doubt it. But I read poorly because I'm starving, which is interesting. I guess your notion of critique would try to view this "opening of the chromaticism" (in which resides, probably, unleash's notion of "empathy", for example, and a fine one it would be in this problematic) simply as a "making room": the chromatic ground (as I'm enterming it here) would stay the same, while the baroque structure is critiqued and "room" is supposedly made. But what I'm about here is this relation to grounds and the "fundamental moods" (with Heideguerrian and anti-Heideggerian resonances) and chromaticism or chromatic range in a manner that enters the whole problematic into the progression, which is part of why I problematize your view of "critique" as such, which, as I think of it here, gives me to a strong sense of a movement of *retention* that operates on the surface of the chromatic predecision, that is already quite set up. That in fact would appear to account for a lot of what goes on on this list, I guess. When I see you pushing "critique" in the way you are, I get a *strong* feeling that the main idea is to preserve the grounding condition as a setting-up that is especially comfortable with one range of goals, which links up with the whole machinic language and the D/G metaphysics, which is ok, I guess. Or not, depending. I'm not dismissing critique, by any means, of course, and I assume you realize that, even as you will most likely be marshalling the forces for war and painting banners to the tune of being "against ethics" and "against nonviolence". Hehe. Boo hoo. I'm being very incendiary, here, though. This is strictly due to my experience concerning these issues on this list and so forth in general, and, I may be completely wrong about your next "move". I deliberately am anticipating them for the simple reason of explains where I am, but not to really assume that that is what you are about. On the other hand, part of the issue of chromatic stability and limitation is the business of dreary repetition. To better clarify where I'm at, returning to the computer example: we open the menu bar, look under file, get in a discussion concerning the semantic cache of "options", and variously understand where and how the cache is important. I make a more general reference to the DOS system operating under Windows. You may think that is what I am trying to be about (right or wrong, good or bad, etc.), i.e., "The DOS needs to be expanded". But in fact, I'm about "our" relationship, the computer, the room, etc., inclusive of the other problematics, my relationship with others, family members, etc. This is tricky. I mean it as a rigorous analogy. Now, you might tell me, "yes, critique opens up that way". I don't buy it, but perhaps you can convince me. Nor do I mean to suggest that you are "not about people" or that you don't have relationships or think about them, etc. I just mean: if we go back to the "menu" example, the movement and scene I described describes how I feel I am in relation to where you appear to be and what D and G *in my poor reading* are about. The poverty of my reading is not at all without substantive cache itself in this matter. I'm always about sending out a kind of rhizome at a juncture like this. But *my* rhizomes are *definitely* not of the D and G kind. They are very small, relatively "humble". The are very different, very direct. I do not agree with the predominant notion that there is only one kind of capital R Rhizome, and when push comes to shove, I, in wretched poverty, stand my ground, and I think I am damn right to do so. I'm not mad at you, btw, and your responses here have been truly cordial, well reasoned, balanced, intelligent, and so forth. They're on par, for example, with Nathan Widder's usual well balanced and admirable scholarship and thinking. I hope you won't take this post the wrong way. The reason I am leaving it as is is because, believe it or not, it is actually what I think in conjunction with this problematic, in this setting, etc. This rhizome grows out of, precipitates out of nothing. The limitations I indicate in this difficult response to you here concern such a "nothing". The hiddenness of nonviolence and the business of the chromatic range of thought pertain to a genocide that is taking place today. The capacity for "thinkers", "philosophers", people who value critique, etc., is too truncated. That truncation is tokening out in the death through starvation of 1.5 million people. The linkage between this discussion and the embargo/genocide is in a certain way bad form or barely admissible. The embargo is *taken as nothing*, but it is something. The linkage I make here would seem to be ill founded, founded, that is, on nothing. This rhizome grows out of a nothing that is something, just as the linkage I make here between subarchitectures and chromatic limitations in general (I see this in, for example: Foucault, D and G, Heidegger, Sartre and Derrida, just vis a vis this discussion) to the embargo is a nothing that is something, and just as the embargo is a nothing, a "not happening" that in fact is not a nothing, to the tune of 1.5 million whose cache is heard hear in this act, here, now, at the time of this writing, in these words, in our conversation. This is a rhizome of nonviolence, which is always founded on a nothing: a *non* that accomplishes when something *doesn't* happen (specifically: violence). You will be far too clever to get this rhizome, imagine. This is of the earth. Down and dirty. Well, not really... Regards, TMB (being a bit more radical than I was in the mood for this evening)
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