Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:22:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Bryant <levi_bryant-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: God help us, back to TMB


---TMB <tblan-AT-telerama.lm.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Paul Bryant wrote:
> 
> > And in this associative linkage that TMB practices so artlessly,
> 
> I think it's quite the contrary.

Of course you do, that was part of the point

> 
> 
>  isn't
> > there something of a Hegelian beautiful soul to be discerned, a sort
> > of venom that parades itself as the mask of the "ethical"?  The
logic
> > of identification is so easy to discern here.  "You are not it,
> > because I am it!" is the murmur that can be seen hiding beneath the
> > wave of imposing names and terms, moving about in a disjointed
pattern
> > of the most vapid free association imaginable.  
> 
> I don't think so.

Again, the same point...  Artless evasion.  
 
> 
> > Thus, the voice of the
> > other, of the interlocutor, is used as a mirror whereby the
> > master/slave dialectic can repeat itself in the form "I am good
> > because you are bad!"  But in the end, what ought to be Difference--
> > and that is indeed an ethical "ought" --falls apart into mere
> > diversity by virtue of a refusal to stand anywhere and attend to
what
> > is being said. 
> 
> This is downright funny. I think if you attended to what was being
said,
> you'd see that I am not being merely "freelly associative" at all, and
> that further, much further, there can be little doubt, given the
> unpopluarity of my stand, that not only do I take a stand, I do so
> strongly, consistetely, with rigor and judiciousness, with a certain
and
> definite courage. Sorry to toot my own horn, but there's so much
spit in
> yours right now I have to.
> 
The sloppiness of spirit seers and channelers has never been that
admirable, nor have they been, for that matter, very radical or
courageous.  The spittle in my horn was you being blown out of it. 
Wannabe Marxists and revolutionaries are a dime a dozen, but so many
of them fall into a vain self-preening.  Where do you suppose you
fall?  Oh wait, that's right, you can't see beyond the tip of your
nose to the mirror that reflects it.

> > A banal self-rightousness indeed...  For it attempts
> > to point at the universe and ultimately points at nothing.
> 
> Nope, what I'm doing is better than that. I know what you mean,
though.
> But I think you'd like simply to use sheer force to get me to agree.
But
> isn't that really the violence of philosphy? That it generally doesn't
> cooperate with sheer force?

What does this have to do with anything?  And what precisely do you
mean?  More channeling I see.
 
> TMB
> 
> 

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