Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:54:07 -0500 (EST)
From: "Greg J. Seigworth" <gseigwor-AT-marauder.millersv.edu>
Subject: Re:  re: Le Nouvel Observateur




On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 Nevrothus-AT-aol.com wrote:

> >understanding some of the details of Deleuze's ontology. Did you see that
> >extract from Le Nouvel Observateur recently posted to the list in which
> >Eribon recalls what Deleuze said to him about Lacan: the latter,
> >complaining about his acolytes, turns to Deleuze and says: "It's someone
> >like you that I need"?   
> 
> I don't have the book with me but I think you can look in the appendix under
> Deleuze and locate it but this exchange (and references) appears in
> Rudinesco's (sp?) biography of Lacan.

Yes, pages 347-348 of Elisabeth's Roudinesco's _Jacques Lacan_.  Paints
quite a picture. 

"An interview with the philosopher Gilles Deleuze, conducted by Didier
Eribon, shows how exasperated Lacan was with the situation.  A few months
after the publication of _Anti-Oedipus_, he summoned Deleuze, its author
[hey, where's Felix?], to his apartment, which was full of his analysands,
and told him how 'hopeless' all his disciples were except Miller.  Then he
said, "What I absolutely need is someone like you."  Deleuze was amused
and remembered that Binswanger used to tell a similar story about Freud
speaking ill of Jones, Abraham, etc.  Binswanger had concluded that he
himself would suffer the same fate when Freud talked about him to his
disciples.  Deleuze was right: at the same period, Lacan was grumbling
about him to Maria Antonietta Macciocchi: he was convinced _Anti-Oedipus_
was based on his seminars, which already, according to him, contained the
idea of a 'desiring machine.'  He was still worrying about plagiarism."

Deleuze comments on Sartre from this same interview with Didier Eribon
were translated by Melissa McMahon and posted to the list on November 28,
1995 [see the archives].  Maybe this msg got re-posted the other day
[Orpheus?]: I forget (too busy).  If anyone has the original piece
[published in Le Nouvel Observateur, Nov16-22 '95] and wanted to translate
and post the interview, I wouldn't stop them. 

The 'Reading Spinoza' chapter in Roudinesco's _Lacan_ book is pretty
revealing [in regard to d+g] too, especially the bit about the tricky
mistranslation of the Latin 'affectus' (among other things) ... 

chaka khan (ms.translation2)

Greg