Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:01:05 +0100
From: Ruth Chandler <R.Chandler-AT-ucc.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Valence
hi Inna,
no doubt he would but the NPC doesn't just campaign 'against' ( the NUS -national union of students does that!) we generally act by providing repsonse to the various consultation documents around re potential changes in H.E e,g the repsective merits (or otherwise in my case!) of a national qualifications framework for Phds, or such dry, but politically crucial questions, like what is the best unit of assessment in the Research Assessment Exercise. Crucial, becuase, amongst other things, the funding basis forsome kinds of cross-disciplinary collaboration stands to dissappear if the cells are too large or if the'vocational' links between indistry too tightly drawn. knock it all you like but that illdefined 'space' called postgraduate research is the becoming-woman of the research world and, with the current obstacles to access which exist, this is much more as an ephemeral 'point' than as a line of flight.
if it is 'anti-Deleuze and Guattari' to try and make a difference within these frameworks, to collect postgarduate views and opinions and to try and feed these into policies that affect us than 'guilty' (sic) as charged
Ruth.c
>>> Inna Runova Semetsky <irs5-AT-columbia.edu> 08/20 5:36 pm >>>
Ruth
deleuze would say i think that campaining AGAINST would somehow
reinforce that what you're campaning against. His politics would be to get
into existing wave, to get into the movement. I think conforming to
strict requirements --still able to fit one's radical topic into those
boundaries--- makes these boundaries stretch and expand. That's what
transgression is in my opinion.
inna
On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Ruth Chandler wrote:
> Hi Inna, Paul
>
> Congratulations to you both! it is very interesting to hear about the external examining -i still have this to come and, am expecting to be roasted over an open fire re the image of thought i have made!
>
> do you have contact with any student bodies campaigning over fair examination procedures? if you, or anyone else on line, know of anything, it would be interesting to compare notes with the practices uk students, where they are represented, find unacceptable.( i belong to an organisation, the National Postagraduate Committee that campaigns and provides consultation on mots matters postgraduate in the uk) it would be good to check out the differences and similarities) the NPC, amonsgt other activities, collects horror stories and examples of what PGs think is 'good' practice ( and why) to try and feed a student driven agenda into the rapidly changing ground of the UK educational framework
>
> reply off list if you, or anyone else, are interested in giving your perspective on the viva or on any other issue pertaining to PG education.
>
> Complaints procedures are top of the list at the moment-the UK has two external systems here, crudely put, the courts and something known as the visitorial system-both of these can only be used after all internal proceedures have been followed and, quite often the supervisor is the first port of call ( bit tricky if thats the problem!) the visitor (in the case of my HEI this happens to be someone appointed to act for Elizabeth 2) is very unsatisfactory and considerble effort has been put in to demonstrate that this contravenes the new human rights legislation. There are strong moves to appoint an ombudsman, but the sticking point on this is securing govermental and university ndependence, who, in short, watches the watchers and on what would its claims to being able to make a decision about a doctoral thesis reside? I would be especially interested in hearing about other models (or ideas about this problem) and what you perceive to be their strengths and weaknesses.
>
> best wishes
> Ruth.C
>
> >>> Paul Bains <P.Bains-AT-murdoch.edu.au> 08/19 1:58 am >>>
> Inna,
> Valence looks good to me but I'd need to check a definite reference.
> Your ordeal sounds medieval. Some of these 'examiners' are pretentious
> wankers.
> My topic was 'relations'.
> Short and simple.
>
> later,
> Paul.
>
>
> At 23:47 17/08/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi Paul.
> >it was certification exam, then proposal, then written dissertation, then
> >oral defense with 5 committee members. Grilling. External readers are on
> >the committee and supposed to be present during orals too.
> >What was your topic?
> >forgot to mention, two foreign languages were required, one-french
> >taht i passed by total miracle. i do not speak french. Was told by the
> >way during orals that Massumi's translation as "valence" (increase in
> >valence etc) is wrong --it should be value. What do you think? I think
> >that Deleuze meant more "technical" term than value.
> >What do other french-speakers think? Charles?
> >inna
> >On Sat, 18 Aug 2001,
> >Paul Bains wrote:
> >
> >> I hope the viva 'defence' went well. I suppose you have external
> >> examiners/readers for the thesis?
> >> I also completed recently.
> >> paul.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> !
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