Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:31:12 -0500
From: louis schwartz <grandautre-AT-home.com>
Subject: Re: Content and Expression


If you look in one of the early chapters of 100o Plateau, you will find 
D & G using the terms content, expression, (with content and expression 
each having their own forms) to trouble any simple opposition between 
form and content.
louis
On Sunday, August 12, 2001, at 08:58 PM, Inna Runova Semetsky wrote:

> yes massumi is very explicit. i still want to get the significance of
> the word FORM. Container and contained perhaps?
> french-speakers please: what was this in original D/G?
> thanks
> inna
>  On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Step
> wrote:
>
>> Inna Runova Semetsky wrote:
>>
>>> does anyone know why Deleuze uses FORM of content and FORM of 
>>> expression
>>> rather than saying simply, content and expression? Is this translation
>>> proper (form). Anyone knows what was french used by Deleuze for 
>>> "form"?
>>
>> Isn't it because content and expression have, respectively, BOTH form 
>> AND
>> substance (ie form of content, substance of content ... form of 
>> expression,
>> substance of expression)?  So when Deleuze says 'FORM of content' (or 
>> 'FORM
>> of expression') he's using the phrase vis-a-vis 'SUBSTANCE of content' 
>> (or
>> 'SUBSTANCE of expression')?
>>
>> The Massumi quote (p. 152) provided by Eddie Campbell continues:
>>
>> "The FORM OF CONTENT, or content abstracted from its substance but in 
>> the
>> context of its encounter with expression, is an order of qualities (a
>> sequence of actualization of selected affects), or, at one remove from 
>> the
>> substance of content, a literal form of containment (such as school or
>> prison) within which affects are actualized.  The FORM OF EXPRESSION 
>> is an
>> order of functions (a sequence of actualization of selected 
>> functions).  A
>> SUBSTANCE OF CONTENT is an overpowered thing as a qualified object 
>> (that is,
>> as exhibiting its assigned qualities).  A SUBSTANCE OF EXPRESSION is 
>> what
>> embodies an overpowering function.  The interface between content and
>> expression is meaning or interpretation as a process of becoming 
>> (essence),
>> expressible as a dynamic DIAGRAM or infinitive.  What places the two in
>> relation is the ABSTRACT MACHINE."
>>
>> Stephen Wood
>>
>