From: <arianarausch-AT-arqa.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:43:16 (GMT)
Subject: Re: mulholland-rettificattione,Re: mulholland-rettificattione


I tried Italian and i don´t know if i undestood what you said, but I see the 3dimentions thisway:  we may consider, at 1º approach, the story “forming” a, in spanish, “cinta” with 2 dmentions, but a fragmented one. Not like a regular euclidean line, where the distance between 2 points it´s a “longitud” (longuezza?). this one is a fractal line where the distance between 2 points is infinitely “divisible” (dividua?). the points or fragments are connected in a unlogical way (“bricolage di attualizzazioni impreviste”) by  diane´s mind in the dream. But these points had to be recollected by diane´s  mind in some moment of her life, events of her past and creations of her mind, so each fragment is a different autonomous story, independently from diane´s dream (the black man at Wikie´s, adam´s life, camilla´s life); and that´s the 3º dimention . so now we have a “cinta” built with fragments and each fragment has each thikness. 
*****about the line, I don´t consider MD as a lineal movie, I think there´s a fold (silence club) and an eternal coming back of difference************may be something like “cinta moebius”


----------visions of the 4º dmention________________ a lovecraft monster or a francis bacon´s piece of meat
 imagine a “cinta moebius” built with each fragment growing and gowing, like million long autonomous-arms, moving and crossing each other, in a neverending becoming. The 4º dmention is the virtual-place of possibilities.

****please don´t write in italian*********************ººººººººº take care



----- Mensaje Original ------
De :giampaolo de amicis 
Para : deleuze-guattari 
Asunto : Re: mulholland
Enviado : 7-Mar-2003 03:41:55 -0300
>
>a proposito del livello narratologico: c' una disarticolazione non puramente icastica e negativa, non una scorza epidermica di provocazione, ma vi sono delle implicazioni palindromiche. la materia magmatica di questa immagine-pensiero, questa immagine-tempo
>la deriva  spaesante proprio perch il tempo non  lineare, il tempo non  sequenziale, ma bricolage di attualizzazioni impreviste e tessuto di virtualizzazioni, cio di apertura di campi di problematicit e la coesistenza di queste divergenze  il cristallo di tempo, laddove la consequenzialit senso-motoria restava ancora nelle "tre dimensioni", era ancora narrazione
>
>thank you very much for reading in italian
>
>flu xus
>
>www.davidlynch.com
>http://www.tempimoderni.com/2000/febbraio/lynch/7.htm
>http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id2220/pg5/
>http://www.artifice.qc.ca/dossierarchives/90.htm
>http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/profonditadicampo/Archivio/Architettura/Bibliografia%20per%20Cine_Setting.htm,I tried Italian and i don´t know if i undestood what you said, but I see the 3dimentions thisway:  we may consider, at 1º approach, the story “forming” a, in spanish, “cinta” with 2 dmentions, but a fragmented one. Not like a regular euclidean line, where the distance between 2 points it´s a “longitud” (longuezza?). this one is a fractal line where the distance between 2 points is infinitely “divisible” (dividua?). the points or fragments are connected in a unlogical way (“bricolage di attualizzazioni impreviste”) by  diane´s mind in the dream. But these points had to be recollected by diane´s  mind in some moment of her life, events of her past and creations of her mind, so each fragment is a different autonomous story, independently from diane´s dream (the black man at Wikie´s, adam´s life, camilla´s life); and that´s the 3º dimention . so now we have a “cinta” built with fragments and each fragment has each thikness. 
*****about the line, I don´t consider MD as a lineal movie, I think there´s a fold (silence club) and an eternal coming back of difference************may be something like “cinta moebius”


----------visions of the 4º dmention________________ a lovecraft monster or a francis bacon´s piece of meat
 imagine a “cinta moebius” built with each fragment growing and gowing, like million long autonomous-arms, moving and crossing each other, in a neverending becoming. The 4º dmention is the virtual-place of possibilities.

****please don´t write in italian*********************ººººººººº take care



----- Mensaje Original ------
De :giampaolo de amicis 
Para : deleuze-guattari 
Asunto : Re: mulholland
Enviado : 7-Mar-2003 03:41:55 -0300
>
>a proposito del livello narratologico: c' una disarticolazione non puramente icastica e negativa, non una scorza epidermica di provocazione, ma vi sono delle implicazioni palindromiche. la materia magmatica di questa immagine-pensiero, questa immagine-tempo
>la deriva  spaesante proprio perch il tempo non  lineare, il tempo non  sequenziale, ma bricolage di attualizzazioni impreviste e tessuto di virtualizzazioni, cio di apertura di campi di problematicit e la coesistenza di queste divergenze  il cristallo di tempo, laddove la consequenzialit senso-motoria restava ancora nelle "tre dimensioni", era ancora narrazione
>
>thank you very much for reading in italian
>
>flu xus
>
>www.davidlynch.com
>http://www.tempimoderni.com/2000/febbraio/lynch/7.htm
>http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id2220/pg5/
>http://www.artifice.qc.ca/dossierarchives/90.htm
>http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/profonditadicampo/Archivio/Architettura/Bibliografia%20per%20Cine_Setting.htm
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