From: "fili houtman" <filihoutman-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: hifi cd mini dv plug play etc
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:21:13 +0000



>
>Hey fili, this may be of use, but you seem to be coming from a
>'technology' (or technological embodiment) perspective (no?) rather than
>one of 'science' and this is piece is from a 'science' perspective. I
>don't really understand all that science vs technology bollocks, just
>some people I know eat it for brekky, lunch and tea.
>
>Glen.
>

i don't understand either. why is this separated? do people who use these 
notions imagine that they need to gather around the notion of "science" to 
also label their activity as an ethical quality, and thus apt to attract the 
assentment of other persons inkled to the same perspective? in this 
opportunity someone who only keeps busy with technical items will certainly 
have to look as a hacker of the activity of the ethical quality, which will 
call her a dangerous person or at least a lunatic (someone influenced by the 
moon?).
but glen yes- i am looking for technical observations, as a means of 
experimenting the life and its philosophy, and i guess that deleuze is a 
brilliant surfer, not a philosopher. what remains i a taste for what is 
happening to people who are attracted by this books of his, and works he did 
with guattari. (on this lists on deleuze on the internet for example) i 
wonder why people are not more willing to free themselves from this internet 
files by talking about their respective feelings upon this philosophy. it 
has still today a great love tanker among other earthyans. why is it not 
used, and why is it not possible to exchange videos datas by this 
technology? this thinker (deleuze) is reasonable people should consider 
using it's unfolded impossibilities. why not to do it by video data exchange 
by a list or any other server? if why it is not possibille is to b answered 
i think it's because people are taught to be obedient to the ethical group 
activism. it's an impossiblity written in the human fabric, in it's coda. 
but their are degrees to which ethic is responsible upon impossible things. 
it shows it's limit and how g-d is a dismembered life. technology thus is 
the study of how the dismemberment is livable, whereas science studies the 
limits the dismemberement poses to itself. science is on the side of the 
unknown, if you allow me to say, and technology on the side of life.the 
question which raises to me as a just marked this opposition out is to what 
degree i have not just said something slightly neo-nazi. for example does 
the american did not use technology to destroy democracy on the planet? so 
the two are intermingled but the proportion of science was going to take 
over, and the faith in mastership of technology by a few, is the exact 
purpose of ethical and science observations. this is in the current of this 
kind of reason i proposed this list be given the power to "technologize" 
it's users to the most possible, so this list, can give me the opportunity 
to let me think that by participating to it, i have made my own piece of 
effort towards democracy and it's constant shift in possibilities, more than 
the reverse. i hope i can be validated by facts that what i do is going in 
the sense of democracy and more power to technology for the users of it, 
than the situation where technology is to the service of alienated groups. 
is this going in the sense of the article you gave yesterday glenn, i am not 
too sure i have understood it, bye-bye..

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