Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 08:41:24 +0800 From: David Geelan <bravus-AT-innocent.com> Subject: PKF: Response to Robert Basso G'day Robert I hope you'll forgive me for not having the time to rebut in detail your very long post. I just wanted to make a couple of quick points, then leave this discussion aside, with your permission, because it is related more strongly to your self-definition and identity (and others' definition of you, as you note) than to the work of Paul Feyerabend, and is therefore probably of limited interest to the list members. 1. I was not "offended" by the fact that you chose not to spell out the abbreviation for the New York Times. The point I wished to make was simply about etiquette and consideration: in general it's best to err on the side of being more explicit than less, precisely because you do not know who will read the message. I do know that people from very many countries post to this list, and many do not have English as their first language, but even without that specific information, it's always best to assume a world-wide readership for anything that goes to the Internet. Do you know what the abbreviation 'SMH' stands for? Why assume the world knows the NYT? The point is basically about consideration and thoughtfulness for others. 2. It was my own fault for writing unclearly (for which I apologise) that you assumed I extrapolated so much from this one instance. I used the instance of the abbreviation as an example to lead in to a discussion of what I felt to be your relatively narrow frame of reference, but the evidence on which I had constructed that view of you was the aggregate of all your posts to the list: the abbreviation was just one example that I used rhetorically. As you point out, I ought not to have assumed to know who you are on such flimsy evidence - but your response does little to reassure me that your perspective is broader. 3. I myself would also identify myself as a Christian first, who associates with a particular congregation of a particular brand for a variety of reasons which are not absolute. Perhaps I have tended to try to label you - and you have returned the favour! Maybe we can agree to try not to label one another: but how is it possible to have any meaningful discussion at all without using words as identifiers for particular stances and perspectives ('places to stand and ways to look')? Much of what you've assumed about my own perspective is unrelated to my own self-description too: one of the drawbacks - and glories - of the text-only world of e-mail lists! I think, in consideration to the other list members, it would be good to take any further discussion of these issues to private e-mail. Thanks for challenging my assumptions - hope I've been able to challenge some of yours... Regards, David -- David R. Geelan, Science & Maths Education Centre, Curtin University GPO Box U1987, Perth, WA, 6107. Ph: +618 9266 3594 Fax: +618 9266 2503 Home Page: http://alpha7.curtin.edu.au/~pgeelandr/bravus.htm Perfect love casts out fear. 1 John 4:18 ********************************************************************** Contributions: mailto:feyerabend-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Commands: mailto:majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Requests: mailto:feyerabend-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
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