Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:28:01 -0500 Subject: Re: PKF: Would Feyerabend have defended Wittgenstein and Whorfagainst a while ago, i had posted a message regarding sokal's new book. this post did not elicit discussion probably because its an old issue and has been discussed before, or perhaps because this list is not intended for such discussions. i am emboldened by the current chomsky discussion to revisit the discussion i was trying to initiate, in light of the fact that chomsky has given his stamp of approval to sokal's prank and underlying theory of science. i am a novice at philosophy, science and linguistics and better minds on this list will be more able to shed light on the suspicions i wish to raise below. one interesting question that arises is: is feyerabend a part of the Left? i would venture that he would quickly say "no", since i sense in him a distaste for being part of some conceptual movement. his actions during the 60s, as presented in KT, show that he was a sympathizer with many of the causes but was individualistic in his actions (choosing to continue with classes during protests, for example). this then leads to the question of what is the "Left"? and this seems to be the crux of the sokal wars. sokal, having realized that his prank has played right into the hands of the political right, has been scrambling to [re]establish his left credentials and position himself close to chomsky and ehrenreich, the darlings of the political left. it seems to me, perhaps in my naivete, that the different camps in the Left might share attitudes of humanitarianism but are sharply differentiated by deterministic materialism (the marx variety? but more importantly the scientistic variety) on one side and relativism on the other. the latter side (relativists) seems to include (a) "obscurantists" (PKF's word) such as derrida and members of the deconstruction school, perhaps those members of the academia that sokal mainly targets, and (b) a whole lot of thinkers pondering the ambiguity of knowledge (and stressing the need for humility in its use) on different sides of the scientistic divide (putnam? quine?... on the more positivist side, dare i say?), the critical side of which i would say houses PKF's thought. i would conclude that at least on the political front and the philosophy of science front (as opposed to linguistic theory, where i have not read any contribution from PKF) we would find PKF and chomsky holding opposing views. is it true that PKF and others are the more "humanitarian" in that they detect and critique the authoritarianism in science and its practice? that is my belief, and i believe that this is the issue of subjective truth that each "liberal" thinker must note in his consideration of science, just as each theologian (or anyone who practices a religion) must confront the similar kierkegaardian idea. while i continue to greatly admire chomsky's relentless political efforts against inequities and authoritarianism, i am skeptical of his general approach (someone else posted a better expressed and more relevant critique of his rhetorical successes in enforcing his point of view in the field of linguistics) such as quoting (out of context) and critiquing martin heidegger on the "meaning of truth". someone mentioned that in this thread, each person is responding not to the original question on PKF's possible view on the chomsky v wittgenstein issue, but to his own view of the differences between PKF and chomsky. i must admit that with this post, i am furthering that vein of response! --ravi note to daedalus: i would assume that the "terrorist" reference is the usual fare of critics of the Left, who categorize people like say yasser arafat as a terrorist and then equate Leftist sympathy with the palestinian cause with a support of terrorism. i must quickly add that i am not trying to stir up left-right debates (which unfortunately never seem to lead to any meaningful discussion or outcome), but am trying to keep this discussion alive, since it is of great interest to me. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- science is the only subculture in which failure is legitimate -- kenneth boulding ********************************************************************** Contributions: mailto:feyerabend-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Commands: mailto:majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Requests: mailto:feyerabend-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
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