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Subject: Re: PKF: Would Feyerabend have defended Wittgenstein and Whorfagainst Chomsk...
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:23:35 +0200


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Shall I bow out to this? No, that was not my intention. Both Todd and Daedalus are exhibiting
legitimate counterpositions. I think I must preface certain of my postings with - "Please read
with caution. These are experiments in historical form, and so may render parts and aspects
of the narrative (and it is a Narrative) innacurate."

If you will allow me to deal with two "thick" ethical concepts - ("good") and ("bad") -, these narrative
postings are intended to show how ambiguity is inherent in a narrative, and in extreme cases
can make a good man or action look bad and a bad man or action look good. NATOs last action was a case
in point, i.e. for the organisers of the "action" it was an experiment in historical form (re: the
narrative placed on it), and this experiment made many good look bad and many bad look good.
Ambiguity is central to narratives, and I have wanted to bring this out, and specifically to bring
it out where it belongs: with the destructive and constructive (and instructive for learning) capacities
it does have when applied in the real historical arena, i.e. to real people and/or events. My posting
made Chomsky look bad, and provoked reaction, which is good, because it means that people
do care. When you are in certain emotional states, the narrative just flows, regardless of the
facts, and that is what I like to do - because eventually it leads somewhere at least. This is a
dark road to take though.

I would like to direct Todd to http://www.sunflower.com/~dewatson/dma-chm0.htm
for a critique of Chomsky=B4s rebuttal of whorf, which does lend some hypocricy to Chomsky=B4s
writings on manufacturing of consent etc.




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Shall I bow out to this? No, that was not my intention. Both Todd and Daedalus are exhibiting
legitimate counterpositions. I think I must preface certain of my postings with - "Please read
with caution. These are experiments in historical form, and so may render parts and aspects
of the narrative (and it is a Narrative) innacurate."
 
If you will allow me to deal with two "thick" ethical concepts - ("good") and ("bad") -, these narrative
postings are intended to show how ambiguity is inherent in a narrative, and in extreme cases
can make a good man or action look bad and a bad man or action look good. NATOs last action was a case
in point, i.e. for the organisers of the "action" it was an experiment in historical form (re: the
narrative placed on it), and this experiment made many good look bad and many bad look good.
Ambiguity is central to narratives, and I have wanted to bring this out, and specifically to bring
it out where it belongs: with the destructive and constructive (and instructive for learning) capacities
it does have when applied in the real historical arena, i.e. to real people and/or events. My posting
made Chomsky look bad, and provoked reaction, which is good, because it means that people
do care. When you are in certain emotional states, the narrative just flows, regardless of the
facts, and that is what I like to do - because eventually it leads somewhere at least. This is a
dark road to take though.
 
I would like to direct Todd to http://www.sunflower.com/~dewatson/dma-chm0.htm 
for a critique of Chomsky=B4s rebuttal of whorf, which does lend some hypocricy to Chomsky=B4s
writings on manufacturing of consent etc.
 
 
 
 
Alexander Patterson :
SAP R/3 Logistics SCM all industries . R/3 Telecoms / Utilities Network Logistics
SAP OLAP Business Intelligence: Advanced Planning Systems (SAP APO), Data warehousing (SAP BW)
voice/fax: +42 0425 22627
mob/gsm: +42 0602 610 663
email: nou-AT-clnet.cz
webmail: bms-apatt-AT-universalmail.com
 
 
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