Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 09:57:08 +0200 From: Rob van Gerwen <Rob.vanGerwen-AT-phil.ruu.nl> Subject: Re: Shots and pixels (was: Re: Big Video) Michael I am sorry, you are right about my bashing distinctions regarding the various kinds of film traditions. Sure, Bresson is not a representative of European cinema, and yes many a Japanese film will use the very techniques I attribute to Hollywood films, among which some may use the techniques used by, say, Bresson. I was using examples und used the wrong terminology to refer to them. Thanks for the correction. Then Michael said: >More generally, you seem to be taking the well-worn "ontological" path of >much film theory, from the "naive realism" of early film journalism to the >"naive formalism" of, say, Rudolph Arnheim. Why try to find an "essence" >to cinema (or video) beyond the uses to which it's put? The quest only >seems to blind you to the inventedness of film images and the reliance of >video (historically if not "ideally") on existent objects. Many things can be said about 'the well-worn "ontological" path' except that it is dispensable. Whenever philosophical remarks about film are going to be made reference has to be made to this 'path'. It may be well-worn, but that doesn't mean it is well understood. Explain to me what is wrong with naive realism (not that I am taking this stand, but you seem to think I do). What can I say. ___________________________________________ Rob van Gerwen Dept. of Philosophy Utrecht University P.O.Box 80.126 3508 TC Utrecht The Netherlands Phone: + 31 30 532087 Fax: + 31 30 532816 E-mail: Rob.vanGerwen-AT-phil.ruu.nl World Wide Web Home Page URL: http://www.phil.ruu.nl/home/rob/rob.html ___________________________________________ --- from list film-theory-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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