File spoon-archives/film-theory.archive/film-theory_2001/film-theory.0101, message 66


Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 12:14:34 -0800
Subject: Re: What's wrong with mainstream sensibilities?
From: Michael Moretti <moretti-AT-mac.com>


I believe that the facts are identified by our opinionated discretion. The
logical coherence of a film relies as much upon our personal experience as
the filmmaker's efforts. How can we separate the two without reducing the
film to a pile of bitmaps and waveforms?

Michael

on 1/6/01 10:35 AM, hugh bone at hbone-AT-optonline.net wrote:

> LC,
> 
> Not to be finicky about words, but your illustration seems to be
> 
> 1) a contrast of feeling, emotion, one's personal reaction to, and enjoyment
> of a movie, vs.
> 
> 2) logical definition of its story, characters, cinematography etc., and
> how they relate to each other.
> 
> Two people may not agree about the emotional impact of a scene, a segment or
> the entire movie, but are likely to agree about the facts
> of item 2.
> 
> HB
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> 
>>> And about what Lita was asking... I think in some cases it's more
>> important
>>> to have opinions than to analyze. I, mean, you can understand something
>> and
>>> still don't like it. I remember an article by a music critic of the New
>> York
>>> Times saying just that... that he understood Schoenberg but still didn't
>>> like him.
>> 
>> Right.  My example of this is "Fight Club."  I really found it distasteful
>> and grotesque, but i recognized it's value as a film.  I enjoyed getting
>> into the themes, subplot, etc.  Film is such a subjective realm, i think
>> it's almost impossible to seperate completely the opinion from the
> analysis.
>> It's difficult, at the very least.
>> 
>> LC
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Manuel
>>> 
>>> 
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