File spoon-archives/film-theory.archive/film-theory_2001/film-theory.0101, message 76


From: "hugh bone" <hbone-AT-optonline.net>
Subject: Traffic
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:57:11 -0500



Jenna,

For a negative review:

http://www.sfbg.com/AandE/35/14/heavy.html

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> On another topic, has anyone seen "Traffic?"  I'm very intrigued, but need
> an honest opinion.  Don't want to be a victim of my own epxectations.
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> jenna
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Lita Coucher <lita_coucher-AT-hotmail.com>
> > To: <film-theory-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: What's wrong with mainstream sensibilities?
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> > > > LC,
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> > > > Not to be finicky about words,
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> > > Hugh,
> > > PLEASE be finicky about words.  That's what I'm trying to figure out!
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> > > but your illustration seems to be
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> > > > 1) a contrast of feeling, emotion, one's personal reaction to, and
> > > enjoyment
> > > > of a movie, vs.
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> > > >  2) logical definition of its story, characters, cinematography
etc.,
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> > > > how they relate to each other.
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> > > > Two people may not agree about the emotional impact of a scene, a
> > segment
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> > > > the entire movie, but are likely to agree about the facts
> > > > of item 2.
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> > > Yes.  I agree.  I'm in a bind about seperating emotional response from
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> > > functionality of the devices used to illicit that response.
> > > lc
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> > > > HB
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> > > > > > And about what Lita was asking... I think in some cases it's
more
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> > > > > > to have opinions than to analyze. I, mean, you can understand
> > > something
> > > > > and
> > > > > > still don't like it. I remember an article by a music critic of
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> > > > > York
> > > > > > Times saying just that... that he understood Schoenberg but
still
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> > > > > > like him.
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> > > > > Right.  My example of this is "Fight Club."  I really found it
> > > distasteful
> > > > > and grotesque, but i recognized it's value as a film.  I enjoyed
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> > > > > into the themes, subplot, etc.  Film is such a subjective realm, i
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> > > > > it's almost impossible to seperate completely the opinion from the
> > > > analysis.
> > > > > It's difficult, at the very least.
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> > > > > LC
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> > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > Manuel
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