File spoon-archives/foucault.archive/foucault_1996/96-07-06.052, message 60


From: "Gabriel Ash" <Gabriel.Ash.1-AT-nd.edu>
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 96 12:14:11 
Subject: Re: Savings and Profit


On Sat, 01 Jun 1996 09:21:59 -0500, Nicholas Dronen wrote:

>
>	Marx, clearly, was was affected by Dickensian Londen.  He lived
>during a time of radical economic change and it certainly wasn't pretty.
>I don't know if his "insights" apply today.  Sure, we can throw about Marxist
>theory, but can we throw it about *as if* its terms really fit the phenomenon?

Marxist theory is not supposed to fit the phenomena, it is supposed to force 
the phenomena to fit those who in the present state of things are considered misfits.

>
>	In order for a voluntary labor cooperative (assuming you're talking
>about them and not a top-down enforcement of a cooperative arrangement on
>all firms) to be as productive as a "capitalist" firm, it would need very
>dedicated members.  Free-riders abound in the world.  They're out there,
>waiting to sap you and me of valuable resources.  Be careful.

Yeh, I see all those starved faces of Africa and Sout-America glowing at me as they 
look out for a free-ride on my back.  The amazing thing about North America, is that it is problably
the only place in the world where otherwise sensible people seriously believe that the poor 
exploit the rich. 

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Gabriel Ash
Notre-Dame
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