From: POSTOFFICE-AT-po.usq.edu.au (Administrator) Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:00:39 +1000 Subject: RETURNED BY ADMINISTRATOR Received: from zeus.usq.edu.au by po.usq.edu.au (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9c for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1997May26.101804.1166.302998; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:18:04 +1000 Received: from jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU (jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU [128.143.200.11]) by zeus.usq.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14875; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:21:18 +1000 (EST) Received: (from domo-AT-localhost) by jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) id UAA33040 for foucault-outgoing; Sun, 25 May 1997 20:16:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU: domo set sender to owner-foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu using -f Received: from Magpie.Magill.UniSA.edu.au (magpie.Magill.UniSA.edu.au [136.169.41.14]) by jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA48396 for <foucault-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU>; Sun, 25 May 1997 20:16:42 -0400 Received: from MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU by MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU (PMDF V5.0-7 #20435) id <01IJBKJ88GSW001XDE-AT-MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU>; Mon, 26 May 1997 09:46:36 +0930 Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 09:46:36 +0930 From: 9309629n-AT-Magpie.Magill.UniSA.edu.au Subject: Re: Silence In-reply-to: <3385320B.75D3-AT-dial.pipex.com> To: foucault-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU Cc: foucault-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU Message-id: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970526094035.89906A-100000-AT-MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> Sender: owner-foucault-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-To: foucault-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU Dear Mark - Hello from Australia - yes, I have seen the recent film version of Romeo and Juliet (is there anyone left on the planet who hasn't?) And it is a beaut film - Luhrmann is one of my favourites - I particularly liked the whole gang warfare thing, but why do you call it a postmodern reading of Shakespeare? I'd be interested to know - help me get a grip on this whole *postmodern* business. Regards, Brigid Venables. On Thu, 22 May 1997, Mark Holloway wrote: > > I think you have to subscribe to a bit of romanticism to read such things > as "victories". And few of us are romantic these days...anyone seen the > recent film version of Romeo and Juliet? I think its quite a clever film; > my favourite postmodern reading of Shakespeare so far! And its possible > to read the film as a deromanticising of something that has become a > cliche. Actually its a really interesting film to talk about but thats > not why I'm writing...it would be pointless for me to continue if nobody > else had seen it... > > Yes, well...the point I was going to make was this...the examples of > Thelma & Louise, Princess de Cleves, Romeo and Juliet, Antony & Cleopatra > etc. (the list could just go on and on) show that notions of "victory" > and "defeat" are never concrete, and never mutually exclusive. > > Thanks for all your comments/suggestions so far. I think it was Colin who > mentioned Spivak? I'm quite familiar with The Rani of Sirmur and, > spookily enough, the figure of the Rani provides another ambiguity. > Self-immolation offers her an act of subversion/defiance in relation to > the colonisers, yet it is also an act (a silent act at that) of > compliance with a phallocentric culture which subordinates her as a > woman. As you say yourself, Colin, its a matter of interpretation. The > ethical framework we place around her constructs her as rebel or victim. > And always she is both. > > Cheers, > > Mark >
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