From: "Anaspinoza" <anaspinoza-AT-sinectis.com.ar> Subject: RE: Pinochet and disappeared Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:19:22 -0300 -----Mensaje original----- De: Marcos Peralta <Marcos.Peralta-AT-owen.vanderbilt.edu> Para: 'foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu' <foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu> Fecha: Viernes 13 de Noviembre de 1998 19:06 Asunto: Pinochet and disappeared Hola Marcos. vivo en Buenos Aires y estoy, como vos, suscripta a la lista de Foucault de la Universidad de Virginia (¿dónde vivís?) Aún no soy muy ducha en informática. Estoy suscripta a la lista de filosofía de la UBA y sé como mandar los mensajes. Pero no he tenido éxito con esta lista de Foucault. ¿Serías tan amable de indicarme cómo diablos mando un mensaje a la lista? (Sé que estoy suscripta porque me llegó el acuse de recibo). Gracias! Saludos Ana >Ian, I have some thoughts ... (but not very academic ones) > >I think that what happened in Chile (as well as in Argentina -my country- >and many other South American countries) is a good example of what Foucault >says in the first part of your quote. > >I think that Chile is an extreme example (extreme at least for Americans and >western Europeans) of how an specific group can use the different forms of >legitimized control (justice, the existence of a military force, regulations >about what is moral or not, etc) to support its political hegemony. > >Further, I think that today the same reasoning applies. Even though I am not >a Pinochet supporter, I have to agree that this intent to judge Pinochet is >a political act. And sincerely, I don't think that this fact is necesarily >bad. > >Besides this debate around the use of justice as a political tool, I think >that there is a much more interesting physics-of-power analysis to be made >about the Chilean process such as, how >did Chileans build networks to develop opposition activities at their local >level of influence? how did they build connections with other nodes? how did >Pinochet and his allies confronted the micro-networks that opposed them?. > >I think that an analysis like this may generate good insights about how to >develop strategies at the micro-physic level of power to combat a >macro-physic state-driven hegemony. > >Saludos / Regards > >Marcos A. Peralta > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ian Robert Douglas [mailto:Ian_Robert_Douglas-AT-Brown.edu] >Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 7:43 PM >To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >Subject: disappeared > > >Does anyone have any thoughts on Pinochet? There is an interesting >response from Foucault in _Remarks on Marx_ where he states, "It seems to >me that the idea of justice in itself is an idea which in effect has been >invented and put to work in different types of societies as an instrument >of a certain political and economic power or as a weapon against that power >.. One can't .. put these notions forward to justify a fight which should >.. overthrow the very fundaments of our society." > I'm quoting out of context, of course, but I wonder what Foucault might >have said about Pinochet. Or better still--for we shouldn't feel any need >to parrot-fashion attempt to use the words he might use--I wonder what >people who, like myself, have been deeply influenced by his force of >thinking and intervention think about this immediate issue. > >best wishes/sincerely, > >____________________________________________ >Ian Robert Douglas, >Watson Institute of International Studies, >Brown University, Box 1831, >130 Hope Street, >Providence, RI 02912 > >tel: 401 863-2420 >fax: 401 863-2192 > >"Above all, we must keep firmly in mind what > it means to be a human being." - Kierkegaard >
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