From: "Bryan C" <kirk728-AT-hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Gendered language and Re: Power and the Subject Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:30:42 -0700 >From: Asher Haig <ahaig-AT-warped-reality.com> >Reply-To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >Subject: Gendered language and Re: Power and the Subject >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:03:32 -0500 > >on 1/30/01 4:45 PM, Bryan C at kirk728-AT-hotmail.com wrote: > >Will you please take note of the pronouns that you use and not use "his" to >reference a universal subject. Such gendered references are at the very >least potentially exclusive and dangerous and it seems like a simple effort >on the part of individuals to select other referents. Sorry, I'm trying, old habits die hard. > > > I have only one remaining question that I cannot answer seem to > > find an answer for. If agency is born of power relations and > > absent power relations we are just a shell, how did power > > relations arise in the first place. Surely no control and resistance > > goes on between two rocks. > > > >Questions of metaphysics so not seem to be so much relevant, but I think >Foucault does provide an answer. Power relations have always (and will >always) exist in some form. There is no outside to power. Power, however, >transforms (is transformed and transforms others). Forms of power change. But at some point there must have been a first organism capable of power relations, whether an amoeba or a plankton or a fish, etc. Also at one time there was no life, thus no power relations. > >Who says that we haven't? The presumption seems rather arrogant. And how >are >"we" different than other animals, fundamentally, anyway? Because we can >kill more efficiently? This was exactly the question I was asking. Do animals have power relations? The answer seems to be yes. My point is that we lack scientific or other evidence that animals have knowlage of the self. > >--- > >Asher Haig ahaig-AT-warped-reality.com >Dartmouth 2004 > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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