From: "Bryan C" <kirk728-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Is Juan Cruz a Homosexual himself? - homophobia
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 16:53:40 -0700


>JBC--
>
>I think you miss the thrust of Kirk's claims.  Kirk
>isn't claiming that he himself adheres to these
>beliefs, but that such a stance seems to follow from
>the claim that there is no normativity in Foucault.
>In other words, it is a transcendental or critical
>question about what entitles us to make claims of
>either sort. If normativity is simply an effect of
>power, a social construction, then there seems to be
>no criteria for choosing between homophobia or
>non-homophobia, racism and anti-racism.  But
>Foucualtians make claims all the time that we should
>choose between these alternatives.  So on what grounds
>are they entitled to make claims?  What entitles us to
>UNIVERSALLY claim that homophobia and racism are
>wrong?  This is a problem to be solved rather than
>evaded and dismissed.
>
>Paul Bryant
>Department of Philosophy
>Loyola University of Chicago

PRECISELY! Just as my last mail said, hatred is universally wrong, to
hate a homophobe is as bad as hating anyone else.  This doesn't mean
I embrace homophobia, because it entails hate.  Rather I would reason
with a homophobe instead simply hating him which both is immoral and
counter productive, only entrenching his mindset.

PS I never did thank Yves for bringing up a real argument.  Thank you.
It is much more productive than name calling.

PPS Am I spelling homophobe right?
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