From: "charmaine driscoll" <missplateau-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: crippled
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 01:49:39 -0400



Dear M. Jivko -- I don't see why you feel the need to apologize. You err. It 
is not complex and has nothing to do with abstraction, but everything to do 
with bodies; the bodies ofthe mutilated victims. This is a very Foucauldian 
topic. Have you not read the work of Foucault about the clinic, and the 
Birth of the  Prison? Please clear the air in your head before you assault 
Mr. Widder. It is intellectuals like you that make me want to quit, to kill 
myself, to read Ann Raynd. To go back and be a ballerina, and to take an 
air, in a tobacco trance. Or something like writing you a personal letter 
saying, no you are wrong sir, wrong wrong wrong.
- Now having gotten that out, I wish to say that you need to question your 
first principles Mister Jivko, and please when you have done so, please 
return to the list with your relevant topics and exciting questions about 
Music and other things, which you know so much about. So much that you make 
me sick. I still love you though, but purely abstractly, like a human 
principle sort of thing, you know like, you see.

>From: Jivko Georgiev <jivkox43georgiev-AT-yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: RE: crippled
>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:22:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Mr. Widder,
>i do not attack you, i am just trying to clear the
>things. To me all this is a politcal blackmail- The
>two sides are right, now to make some comments on
>departing from some abstract principles like equality,
>self and so on, is a terrible mistake. Such subjects
>are to be solved in theyr own terms, not of abstract
>humanistic principles.
>Regards!
>Zhivko
>
>
>
>--- newidder <N.E.Widder-AT-exeter.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Then delete the message and discuss something.  What
> > exactly is stopping you?
> >
> > And it was what a British newspaper thinks is
> > important.
> >
> > >===== Original Message From
> > foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ====> > >I absolutely aggree with Mr. Miller. I dont want to
> > >discuss here what according to cnn is importenant.
> > >Here we discuss the work of Foucault.
> > >
> > >Zhivko
> > >
> >
> > Dr. Nathan Widder
> > Lecturer in Political Theory
> > University of Exeter
> > Department of Politics
> > Amory Building
> > Rennes Drive
> > Exeter  EX4 4RJ
> > United Kingdom
> > Tel: +44 (0)1392 263 183
> > Fax: +44 (0)1392 263 305
> > http://www.ex.ac.uk/shipss/politics/staff/widder/
> >
>
>
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Regards,
C.Driscoll

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