Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 08:42:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jivko Georgiev <jivkox43georgiev-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: RE: reach... the absurd You are exactly and precise, and right. I dont know why You should hate to agree with me, its a slang, i assume. Guys, you know the good brasilian band "Sepultura"? Yes, i know, you dont. But those guys had a song named "war for teritory". So the video of the song was: the singer lies in the dirt of the dead sea in Israel and sings "war for teritory" - that is what it is in Israel - war for teritory . Nothing more. Absolutely nothing much : no racisms, nationalisms, ethnicisms, wierd stuff. Jivko --- spider <spider-AT-circulus.co.uk> wrote: > > newidder writes: > > >> Remember this : racism was invented in the > >>west, to the rest of the world it is unknown. > > >The term racism may have been invented in the west, > and the normalizing > forms > >of categorization maybe as well, but so what? It > has been adapted very > easily > >elsewhere. > > >>The > >>ethnic cleansing and the racism is invented and > >>belongs to the culture of the west, > > >Of course, there's no such thing as a non-Western > genocide (Cambodia, > Turkey). > > >> so the west wants > >> to recognise in the rest of the wrold some > racism, > >> without to think about the fact , that the rest > of the > >> world is completely disaware about the meaning of > it. > > >In this modern/postmodern world it is ludicrous to > think that no one else > >understands the meaning of the word. In any event, > self-defense of the > >nation-state, the idea of ownership of the land (it > was my ancestor's) and > the > >like are also "Western inventions." Zionism was a > western movement, and > one > >that in certain ways was forced upon non-Western > Jews. > > --------------------------------- > Much as I hate to agree with Jivko, it does seem he > has a point - although > perhaps we'd be better off thinking in terms of > 'identity politics' being > invented in the west, whereupon it is easier to see > that all the struggles > that are being mentioned, including 'self-defence of > the nation-state' > (eugh!), the 'right' to practice ones religion > freely, (and let's not forget > the genocides in Chile, Rwanda, etc, etc, etc...) do > indeed owe a lot to > Western colonial and philosophical disseminations > (that are still > continuing)... > > On a more general note, the only indication that > there are any philosophers > subscribed to this list that I have seen have come > from the performances of > cwduff (and a couple of others less consistent) - so > let's see more such > affirmation, and less pointless bickering. > > Up the duff! > ;-) > > ----------------------------------- > 'Thus formless is not only an adjective having a > given meaning, but a term > that serves to bring things down in the world, > generally requiring that each > thing have its form. What it designates has no > rights in any sense and gets > itself squashed everywhere, like a spider or an > earthworm.' - Bataille > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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