Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:02:36 -0400 From: "Allen Miller" <millerpa-AT-gwm.sc.edu> Subject: Re: RE: arabs ana hanums Tell that to Ho Chi Min. >>> jivkox43georgiev-AT-yahoo.com 07/15/01 15:30 PM >>> I repeat: the nationalism concern only the western world. To the rest of the world it is irrelevant. Michel Foucault knew it is a unimportenant issue, and he avoided it. Zhivko --- "Hennon, Lisa" <hennon-AT-arcadia.edu> wrote: > I appreciate how Stuart Eldon approached this > question. I wonder if a way > to connect Foucault's work in this discussion about > nationalism is to > identify some of the discourses that have gone into > the nationalism > literature. Much of what I have read has been > structuralist or humanist > explanations, ways of reasoning that Foucault was > avoiding. I am trying to > use the concept of governmentality to ask what kinds > of national imaginaries > have informed U.S. education sciences, so in a way I > am using Foucault's > concepts rather than concepts of nationalism, but my > interests intersect > with the question of nationalism. Perhaps this > worsens the understanding. > I hope not. > > Lisa > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jivko Georgiev > [mailto:jivkox43georgiev-AT-yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:31 AM > To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Subject: RE: arabs ana hanums > > > > If you can't see how biopower relates to > > nationalism, I don't know what to > > tell you. > > > neither do i, sorry. I cant see such thing, > honestly. > The nationalism was a question foucault never cared > about. But my research showed me that "ethnic > cleansing, nationalism, bla, bla, bla" is on the > first > page of every western newspapper and magazin. And i > say to myself : wow!! whats wrong with these guys? > Than i figure out a paradox: the world, for which > the > national borders doesn exist anymore, and in which > everyone is nomore of his own race, this world has > as > a main issue the nationalism and ethnic cleansing - > this western world is forcing, through the help of > the > weapon, the other world to confest that he, the > biggest part of the world, is a Nazi and he is doing > the ethnic cleansing, when in fact most of the world > doesnt know what that means. Isnt that crazy? > > Assertion of rights and authorship? How Foucauldian > > is this? > How? > > Regards! > Jivko > --- newidder <N.E.Widder-AT-exeter.ac.uk> wrote: > > >===== Original Message From > > foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ====> > >Calm down. > > > > Some of us are calm when writing this. > > > > >Let me most of all say, that Michel Foucault has > > >never, absolutely never dealed with any questions > > of > > >nation, nationalism and so on ,these were never > > among > > >his problems. never. > > > > >I am of a nationality, which has suffered for 500 > > >years under the turkish tirany, so i have the > right > > to > > >say whatever i want about the arabs. they are > > always a > > >trouble. > > > > > > > > >"... Goodness, > > > > Nathan > > > > Dr. Nathan Widder > > Lecturer in Political Theory > > University of Exeter > > Department of Politics > > Amory Building > > Rennes Drive > > Exeter EX4 4RJ > > United Kingdom > > Tel: +44 (0)1392 263 183 > > Fax: +44 (0)1392 263 305 > > http://www.ex.ac.uk/shipss/politics/staff/widder/ > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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