Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:26:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jivko Georgiev <jivkox43georgiev-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: Re: RE: arabs ana hanums Ofcourse, what else, except threats and revenge a man can expect from a arab?! --- Tanju SARI <tanjus-AT-superonline.com> wrote: > Where is this guy from who is a member of a nation > suffered from Turkish > tirany?He is a sufferer but cant seem to tolerate > the others.So tirany and > prejudice is a boomerang.. > -----Original Message----- > From: Allen Miller <millerpa-AT-gwm.sc.edu> > To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > <foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu> > Date: 16 Temmuz 2001 Pazartesi 04:01 > Subject: Re: RE: arabs ana hanums > > > >Tell that to Ho Chi Min. > > > > > >>>> jivkox43georgiev-AT-yahoo.com 07/15/01 15:30 PM > >>> > >I repeat: the nationalism concern only the western > >world. To the rest of the world it is irrelevant. > >Michel Foucault knew it is a unimportenant issue, > and > >he avoided it. > > > >Zhivko > >--- "Hennon, Lisa" <hennon-AT-arcadia.edu> wrote: > >> I appreciate how Stuart Eldon approached this > >> question. I wonder if a way > >> to connect Foucault's work in this discussion > about > >> nationalism is to > >> identify some of the discourses that have gone > into > >> the nationalism > >> literature. Much of what I have read has been > >> structuralist or humanist > >> explanations, ways of reasoning that Foucault was > >> avoiding. I am trying to > >> use the concept of governmentality to ask what > kinds > >> of national imaginaries > >> have informed U.S. education sciences, so in a > way I > >> am using Foucault's > >> concepts rather than concepts of nationalism, but > my > >> interests intersect > >> with the question of nationalism. Perhaps this > >> worsens the understanding. > >> I hope not. > >> > >> Lisa > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jivko Georgiev > >> [mailto:jivkox43georgiev-AT-yahoo.com] > >> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:31 AM > >> To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > >> Subject: RE: arabs ana hanums > >> > >> > >> > If you can't see how biopower relates to > >> > nationalism, I don't know what to > >> > tell you. > >> > > >> neither do i, sorry. I cant see such thing, > >> honestly. > >> The nationalism was a question foucault never > cared > >> about. But my research showed me that "ethnic > >> cleansing, nationalism, bla, bla, bla" is on the > >> first > >> page of every western newspapper and magazin. And > i > >> say to myself : wow!! whats wrong with these > guys? > >> Than i figure out a paradox: the world, for which > >> the > >> national borders doesn exist anymore, and in > which > >> everyone is nomore of his own race, this world > has > >> as > >> a main issue the nationalism and ethnic cleansing > - > >> this western world is forcing, through the help > of > >> the > >> weapon, the other world to confest that he, the > >> biggest part of the world, is a Nazi and he is > doing > >> the ethnic cleansing, when in fact most of the > world > >> doesnt know what that means. Isnt that crazy? > >> > >> Assertion of rights and authorship? How > Foucauldian > >> > is this? > >> How? > >> > >> Regards! > >> Jivko > >> --- newidder <N.E.Widder-AT-exeter.ac.uk> wrote: > >> > >===== Original Message From > >> > foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ====> >> > >Calm down. > >> > > >> > Some of us are calm when writing this. > >> > > >> > >Let me most of all say, that Michel Foucault > has > >> > >never, absolutely never dealed with any > questions > >> > of > >> > >nation, nationalism and so on ,these were > never > >> > among > >> > >his problems. never. > >> > > >> > >I am of a nationality, which has suffered for > 500 > >> > >years under the turkish tirany, so i have the > >> right > >> > to > >> > >say whatever i want about the arabs. they are > >> > always a > >> > >trouble. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >"... Goodness, > >> > > >> > Nathan > >> > > >> > Dr. Nathan Widder > >> > Lecturer in Political Theory > >> > University of Exeter > >> > Department of Politics > >> > Amory Building > >> > Rennes Drive > >> > Exeter EX4 4RJ > >> > United Kingdom > >> > Tel: +44 (0)1392 263 183 > >> > Fax: +44 (0)1392 263 305 > >> > > http://www.ex.ac.uk/shipss/politics/staff/widder/ > >> > > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > >> http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > >> > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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