From: "Stuart Elden" <stuart.elden-AT-clara.co.uk> Subject: Re: RE: arabs ana hanums Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:16:24 -0400 Glen tells us that Sartre is claimed by Rorty to have said 'human beings are what they make themselves'; Clifford then informs us he said 'Men make themselves out of what other men have made of them....'. Now I don't want to discount that Rorty may have misquoted, but on my limited knowledge of Sartre the first sounds like the Sartre of Being and Nothingness and Existentialism is a Humanism; the second we know is from Search for a Method (part of the Critique of Dialectical Reason). There's a fairly major shift in Sartre's work between these two projects, and that may explain the similar, though clearly fundamentally different, claims. As Lefebvre said in his 1946 L'existentialisme: 'it is possible that M. Sartre does not understand the difference between Heidegger and Marx'. Maybe by the Critiques he'd realised the difference between _his_ misunderstanding of Heidegger and his (mis?) understanding of Marx... Just a suggestion - it may well be completely wrong! Stuart
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