Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:39:39 -0400
From: "Allen Miller" <millerpa-AT-gwm.sc.edu>
Subject: Re: Men making men, eh, who needs women...


>>> jehms-AT-kabelfoon.nl 07/21/01 14:30 PM >>>


Ali Rizvi wrote:

> Steve
> 
> just to add to what you said. I think Foucault also says a similar 
> thing. The only difference is the notion of authenticty. While Sartre 
> conceives/sees this process of self formation/self constitution/self 
> making  through reference back to the notion of authenticity, Foucault 
> wants this process to be free of any such constraint. This is what his 
> notion of construction of self or aesthetic of existence means (among 
> other things). According to Focuault reference back to the notion of 
> authenticity is the betrayal of self creation. The same is his 
> objection on Kant.
> 
> By the way I think Sartre's influence on Foucault is normally 
> underestimated. What others think?
> 
I agree, Foucault took a lot from Nietzsche, but must have had Sartre in 
his mind a long time. He wrote about many things which were also hot 
items for Sartre, i.e. the relation between indivdual and society.

regards

erik>>

Ditto.  I think Sartre was in some ways the looming father in whose shaodow he wrote and who influenced him and other postwar writers in ways they weren't even aware of.

Allen